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Arsenal not vulnerable anymore, says Wenger

WENGER-BAYERNLONDON, August 8 – Arsenal manager Arsene Wenger believes that his club have lost the vulnerability that once made their players easy prey for Sunday’s Community Shield opponents Manchester City.

Bacary Sagna became the third player to join City from Arsenal in recent seasons when he swapped the Emirates Stadium for the Etihad Stadium in June, but Wenger’s side are now operating on something approaching an equal footing in the transfer market.

Having signed Mesut Ozil in a club-record deal a year ago, Arsenal bought Alexis Sanchez from Barcelona in a move reportedly worth around £30 million ($50.5 million, 37.8 million euros) last month, and Wenger feels they can no longer be considered the poor relations among the Premier League’s leading sides.

“It looks like we are a bit closer,” he told journalists at the Emirates on Thursday.

“We are less vulnerable, that’s for sure. Because in the last two years we bought Ozil and Sanchez. Five years ago we would have lost Ozil and Sanchez!”

Wenger saw Sagna’s fellow France internationals Samir Nasri and Gael Clichy leave Arsenal for City in 2011, while Cesc Fabregas and Robin van Persie also made high-profile exits around the same time.

While Wenger admitted that it was painful to see his best players leave, he said that the identity of the buying club made no difference.

“What is tiring is to lose the players. To Manchester City or to somebody else, for me it is the same,” he said.

But Wenger did admit that he was disappointed by Sagna’s decision to leave the club after seven years in north London.

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Asked why the 31-year-old former Auxerre player had elected to seek pastures new, Wenger replied: “You should ask him that question. I made him a proposal to stay for three years, and he chose City.

“Had he chosen that a long time ago? Maybe. Has he made an early decision? Maybe. It looks to me like he has signed (for City) a long time before, or agreed, because he couldn’t sign.”

– ‘Jekyll and Hyde’ –

Wenger rejected suggestions, however, that City had ‘bullied’ Arsenal into acquiring their best players.

“What you call ‘bullying’, I don’t call that bullying,” he said.

“You pay the price. Usually the transfer is an agreement between three parties and for years we were not in a position where we could say ‘no’. Like Southampton this season.

“At the end of the day, the players finish at the richest clubs. Man United did that as well for years. But they just had superior financial power. They still have.”

Arsenal crashed to a 6-3 defeat at City last season and also fell to heavy losses at Liverpool (5-1) and Chelsea (6-0).

Wenger said that there mitigating factors behind the loss at the Etihad — such as fatigue after a mid-week trip to Naples in the Champions League — but he admitted that his side’s record against their fellow title contenders was a worry.

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Asked if he was shocked by Arsenal’s record against the other heavyweights in the Premier League, Wenger replied: “Concerned. Shocked by the number of goals we conceded.

“Because we had Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde defensively. We had 18 clean sheets, but when we didn’t have a clean sheet, we really let them score.

“I think it was a loss of confidence. Overall we looked quite sound defensively. We have a good opportunity to improve that.”

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  1. ndume

    September 22, 2011 at 6:01 pm

    Kira mutu abebe musaraba yake!

  2. Yori Bracket

    September 22, 2011 at 7:05 pm

    Revenge attacks would have happened with or without the accused.

    • Guest

      September 22, 2011 at 8:27 pm

      What Revenge? These thugs attacked luos mainly yet in the R.valley it was the Kalenjins who were fighting the Kikuyus. Where does revenge come in. Why the cruelty towards the other tribes & not Kalenjins alone if it was truly revenge? Not that I’m advocating for vengeance or any violence, No! But that’s cold blooded murder, I see these 3 rotting in everlasting jail.

      • Yori Bracket

        September 23, 2011 at 4:20 am

        Are you so myopic? And who was killing Kikuyus in Kibera, Mombasa, Maseno University students and Kisii in RV and parts of Nyanza? Next time any one comes to your home and does the same to your family and loved ones..your natural instinct is to react. You dont have to wait to be told.

        • Wanga

          September 23, 2011 at 5:05 am

          Gives us the evidence as we see being done at Hegue. there is no need of generalities and steriotyping. as a luo and as far as am concerned no kikuyu was killed in my part of nyanza and i have school mates and friends. the only thing was looting and destruction of property. tell you whay… no one has aright over another’s life except God. the blood of those killed is crying to God and He will repay even if not in Hegue

          • Guest

            September 23, 2011 at 5:17 am

            Wanga, It’s true. The Waki report among other reports, even CIPEV did not mention any luo killed in Nyanza or Mombasa, sorry Yori I should have corrected you on that point. This is based on documented evidence, no kikuyu was killed in Nyanza or Mombasa. But looting of their property, yes that happened!

          • Guest

            September 23, 2011 at 5:18 am

            *I meant any Kikuyu killed, not luo…

          • Anonymous

            September 23, 2011 at 5:11 pm

            there is evidence done in Jan 3 2008
            http://kenyangenocide.blogspot.com/2008/01/truth-about-kenyan-genocide.html
            i quote
            “Today I read a chilling report on the Los Angeles Times on the systematic genocide going on in Kenya. Even more chilling was the video of a man being slashed to death. It reminded me of Rwanda and not Kenya -a country where we once lived in peace, love and unity. The newspater quotes a Raila supporter saying:
            “We are slaughtering them and we will keep on slaughtering them,” said one young protester, Gabriel Okelo, who got up at six and walked nine miles from the outskirts of the city to march in support of Odinga.As the political violence worsens, tribal fighting and tit-for-tat killings have been going on in Nairobi’s slums and in other towns.Okelo said he killed two people with a machete for the first time Wednesday because “When you are angry, it’s easy. If they refuse our president, Raila Odinga to address the rally, it will happen again. We shall slaughter the Kikuyus. It will go on and on and on, in all parts of the country.”By Robyn Dixon, Los Angeles Times Staff Writer 7:19 AM PST, January 3, 2008”

          • Guest

            September 23, 2011 at 5:54 pm

            You are not serious, Wanga asked for evidence of such killings in Nyanza & not Kibera
            And is this really evidence, from a blog? You’re just copying & pasting from blogs???!! Goodness, I think this is a sign of desperation to shove something down our throats & It’s not working…almost 5 years later, we’re still regurgitating your lies.

          • Yori Bracket

            September 23, 2011 at 6:03 pm

            Stop your crap..your demigod has been PM for four years bei ya unga imeshuka?

          • Guest

            September 23, 2011 at 7:32 pm

            Your president should answer that question. I thought economics was his strength? Why is the shilling 100 to the dollar…Even in the worst days of Moi this never happened. Jameni, your demigod is doing very badly!

          • 1234567

            September 23, 2011 at 8:01 pm

            You call RAO a demigod, MK must be worshiping him since he must consult him on anything he does, as per the accord.

          • Anonymous

            September 23, 2011 at 6:03 pm

            You know nothing, that blog post was done in JAN 2008 way before any mungiki strikes. 
            ona dhambi za ODM
            http://www.fuckfrance.com/topic/2926609/1/Discussions/Luo-Tribe-Ethnically-Cleanses-Kikuyu-Tribe-from-Kisumu-Kenya-after-Election-of-Mwai-Kibaki.html&replies=7

          • Guest

            September 23, 2011 at 7:28 pm

            Oh c’mon, you sound like your somewhat enlightened, you don’t present blog posts in such matters. Imagine a lawyer, Doc, teacher-whoever presenting a topic from fuckfrance.com & you expect to be taken seriously???
            And who has authenticated the stories that you present here, who knows whether the stories are not fabricated, is the writer neutral..was he paid for his opinion? Just like they do here & other media stations?…
            That’s why PNU is so lacklustre, without any vision & direction. Just look at the defence for the current 0-3, pathetic!!! It’s because you guys are just plain clueless, there no think tanks in PNU! I remember after the stolen election, Kenyans were saying ‘they don’t even know how to steal like moi’
            CLUELESS!!!

        • Guest

          September 23, 2011 at 5:08 am

          Exactly, If you’re account is true, ‘in Kibera, Mombasa, Maseno University students and Kisii in RV and parts of Nyanza?’
          What were the uhuru sent Mungiki doing ALSO in Naivasha, Nakuru & not only the said areas? I think you can see the defence story is a lie. If someone attacks your house, won’t you fight them off at your house? You don’t go 500 miles to look for their kin. Which brings the idea of motive & revenge is certainly not it. These were sent to kill, maim & destroy those lives, pure & simple. The question is why? In Uhuru’s words, they were not ready to hand over power & needed to be stopped from ascending to the presidency, i.e ODM.

          • Yori Bracket

            September 23, 2011 at 6:57 am

            What do you need? Pictures and videos? Your ethnic cleansing in Nyanza started with APs that were sent to man voting stations the day before elections kicked off! I know people killed in all places mentioned. Ati only looting blah blah blah..As if destruction of property is any less crime? Next time you incite your kihii’s against anybody in Kenya you shall be wiped out! Which Mungiki would rape a Luo woman? Abomination!!

          • Oludavin

            September 23, 2011 at 7:51 am

            They were not APs, they were mungikis in APs uniforms!!!

          • Yori Bracket

            September 23, 2011 at 10:14 am

            So if they were Mungiki why werent thy arrested and taken to court? You homosapiens had better realise that we live in a civilised world, when you lose elections you go to court. That is the law worldwide..not call call your lazy, illiterate stil evolving semi-humans to mass action

          • Guest

            September 23, 2011 at 10:36 am

            Yori, a wise man said that when all else fails, a fool will settle for insults…
            FYI, there is no democratic country that does not allow mass action. For crying out loud, even China allows mass action, Gaddafi, Mubarak etc are in trouble because they reacted to violence when the people protested. There is nothing illegal about mass action, Kibaki took part in many of them when Moi was still in power.
            Well, ODM would have gone to court, but Gicheru-who swore Kibaki at night, owned those courts, those same courts are on trial now because if they were fair, we wouldn’t be talking about ICC today. So mass action was a LEGAL & CONSTITUTIONAL option.

          • Yori Bracket

            September 23, 2011 at 11:35 am

            Irrespective of who is the CJ that is the law go to court. When you have semi-human-still evolving-homosapiens as supporters do they even know the meaning of mass action? Mass action translated to No Raila no Peace?

          • Guest

            September 23, 2011 at 2:00 pm

            So I guess Kibaki is also a semi-human-still evolving-homosapiens simply because he has taken part in mass actions. Wangari Maathai is also a semi human still evolving homosapien, more so because they stripped during one of their mass actions…oh yeah, plus Koigi’s mum & all those other women. Martha karua, let’s see who else….It’s endless. By the way Stephen Kay is doing a terrible job, why don’t you go to the ICC & assist, you know-share what’s in your small, farting mind?

          • Yori Bracket

            September 23, 2011 at 6:17 pm

            You and your demi-god followers are the ones described as such. Did you see Kibaki, Karua & Wangari wielding machetes and shouting no Raila no Peace? That is the difference you peanut brain

          • 1234567

            September 23, 2011 at 7:39 pm

            From these proceedings we now know the god in the PNU cult.

          • Guest

            September 23, 2011 at 7:42 pm

            Hehehehehe, they forget so quickly this Pnu’s…Puuuuunu!What’s that smell?;-)

          • Guest

            September 23, 2011 at 2:00 pm

            So I guess Kibaki is also a semi-human-still evolving-homosapiens simply because he has taken part in mass actions. Wangari Maathai is also a semi human still evolving homosapien, more so because they stripped during one of their mass actions…oh yeah, plus Koigi’s mum & all those other women. Martha karua, let’s see who else….It’s endless. By the way Stephen Kay is doing a terrible job, why don’t you go to the ICC & assist, you know-share what’s in your small, farting mind?

          • 1234567

            September 23, 2011 at 12:32 pm

            Yori, is Kenya a civilised world? From your high pedestal I will tell you this, I am better off 100 times with a dictator Moi than a thief, a man with bastard children, a drunkard who even denies his own wife, and a lazy fellow reporting to work at 11am. FACT: no one worn the last elections.

          • Yori Bracket

            September 23, 2011 at 6:15 pm

            Really? No one won the elections so why the mass action

          • 1234567

            September 23, 2011 at 7:35 pm

            You fool, go ask that question to the people who called for mass action. Anyway, so that you don’t call me a fool, mass action is a constitutional right.

          • Guest

            September 23, 2011 at 7:44 pm

            Forget it, he looks into the mirror & 5 seconds later he doesn’t how he looks…That’s what your dealing with!

          • Guest

            September 23, 2011 at 10:12 am

            Correction, AP’s sent there to steal the elections using Michuki’s city hoppas!!! If you know more than the investigators locally & internationally, please go & testify, ICC needs you.
            The mungiki did not only rape, they gave them HIV…Yes, filthy mungikis did rape the women, carried out penile amputations, removed their testicles…burnt women & children, one of the women was pregnant-8 months.
            How is all the above ‘protecting our people, or in this case protecting our property as no Kikuyu was killed in those said areas’
            I tell you, it’s better for someone to be a kihii than a savage, good for nothing, wild, murderous & uncontrollable BEAST!
            And don’t be fooled that anyone who stands up against your nonsense is luo………Surely those are the facts, deal with it if it’s too harsh a reality. Because, it’s either that or you must be a mungiki yourself for defending such barbarians.

          • Anonymous

            September 23, 2011 at 11:21 am

            boss check your records. when you people killed the APs – you found no ‘stuffed’ ballot boxes. I remember vizuri seeing people searching thru the stuff and found nothing – the only mistake the APs did was to be ‘PNU Agents’ in hostile areas – there was no election fraud. All the people that died – died because RAILA and RUTO could not accept the will of the people.

          • Guest

            September 23, 2011 at 1:48 pm

            Look at you trying to change history…Really? you’re still trying to
            convince yourself that PNU didn’t steal the election, truly that’s
            laughable. Good luck with that!

            Now what if I told you I’m kikuyu…then again, why do you assume
            everyone not for PNU is autmatically a luo…& what is wrong with
            being a luo, luhya, kamba, kisii, kalenjin, pokot…I mean how narrow
            minded are you!

          • Anonymous

            September 23, 2011 at 2:59 pm

            ‘trying to convince myself?’ hardly, its difficult to forget what happened AS I WAS AT KICC! just because a lie has been told several times it does not become a fact… RAILA lost fair and square and I can prove that!
            Your statements betray your tribal mentality – Did I say  you are a LUO? its your ilk (regardless of ethnicity) that made the AP’s kids fatherless period! I am not narrow minded – you are…very narrow minded and ethnic! – CHANUKA

          • Guest

            September 23, 2011 at 4:58 pm

            Were these your words or not ‘boss check your records. when you people killed the APs’ Were you not referring to the AP’ s in Nyanza? When you say your people, aren’t you referring to the Nyanza/luo people. Yeah, again your narrow minded.Your so hateful your mind is not with you. That said, so you’re among the Kenyans who stole or supported the stolen election? Remember this from an honest indivdual: Your day of reckoning will come, just like those responsible for the PEV, so will those who stole the election. The Ocampo-6 never thought this day will come. Please do yourself a favour, don’t be in denial about this fact.

          • Anonymous

            September 23, 2011 at 5:08 pm

            Those were my words exactly- you ODM people of Nyanza…Why would you think that only ODM people are in Nyanza? Kibaki got 17% in Nyanza!  ODM is not synonymous with Nyanza – CHANUKA and anyway si those APs were killed in Luo Nyanza by ODM fanatics (http://www.jaluo.com/wangwach/200712/Jagwassi122607b.html). Iam telling you NO ELECTION WAS STOLEN! – ODM just refused to follow the will of the people and launched atrocities documented here (http://kenyangenocide.blogspot.com/2008/01/truth-about-kenyan-genocide.html

          • Anonymous

            September 23, 2011 at 5:10 pm

            Documentation of the atrocities of ODM fanatics http://kenyangenocide.blogspot.com/2008/01/truth-about-kenyan-genocide.html

          • Guest

            September 23, 2011 at 5:57 pm

            Hahaha,17%  that’s after the top up from K.I.C.C:-)

          • Anonymous

            September 23, 2011 at 6:06 pm

            you reek of ignorance! nikama ulisomea ujinga! you have no numbers to back up your ‘theory’, Ulisoma Kriegler report? Kumbuka Nyanza is not the same as Luo Nyanza.

          • Guest

            September 23, 2011 at 7:34 pm

            The same Kriegler who told Raila, ‘everyone knows you won the election’. Him? Yeah, I read it!!!

          • Yori Bracket

            September 23, 2011 at 6:08 pm

            The narrow minded one here is you. Your Ojinga lost his opportunity to prove the election was rigged. All he wanted was a PM post for 5 years. That is all he is gonna get. Whether you are Luo, Swahili or some tribeless homosapien is irrelevant

          • Anonymous

            September 23, 2011 at 5:21 pm

            Do you guys think before you speak? How can an AP – a member of state security machinery be an agent of a political party? The fact that they were PNU agents, were recruited from only one tribe, moved in a clandestine manner and never reported to their superiors in Nyanza was proof that they were up to no good. Right from the establishment of  a PNU friendly Kivuitu Commission, we all knew, Central Kenya people were not ready to “give up power”. Even now they are not ready – that’s why they cannot and will not support the VP – Kibaki’s principle Assistant.

          • Anonymous

            September 23, 2011 at 5:25 pm

            regardless of whether they were Agents (Misuse of government resources – the same way the government used government resources to campaign for the constitution) their lives were taken by ODM fanatics.
            Hata Kama wangegua NINI…they did not deserve to die for their mistakes…. <—- that's the point!
            Kwanza it's KTN that lied to people that marked ballot papers had been placed in citi hoppers and none was ever found when they raided the buses.

          • Anonymous

            September 23, 2011 at 6:28 pm

            These guys’ missions were unknown. We have never been told what these people were sent to do in Nyanza. Who knows – their deaths probably saved so many innocent lives.

          • Anonymous

            September 23, 2011 at 6:54 pm

            REALLY! are you serious?  it was ‘unknown’? i thought KTN ‘knew’ I thot the murderers ‘knew’. can you even hear yourself? ati ‘Who knows – their deaths probably saved so many innocent lives’  do you have anything between your ears?
            what kind of mental ineptitude is this?But I’m guessing it’s nothing an electric drill to the side of your head and a small packet of peanuts couldn’t fix… oh, in case you’re curious, the peanuts will help replace that empty gap between your ears .. hey, look on the bright side, they may even push your current IQ into positive integer territory! go here (for definitions of: ineptitude, IQ, positive integer .. an .. to .. of .. the .. on):  www.google.com

          • aluko

            September 23, 2011 at 8:37 pm

            Smart people do not call others names. My parents also taught me not to call people I do not agree with fools. I am a very intelligent person doing very intelligent things in life. Secondly, I do not hold briefs for KTN nor do I for people who murdered  those APs. Just be plain and simple – when these APs were recruited, given money and clandestinely transported to Nyanza in the middle of the night, what was their mission and what was the scope of their work?

          • Yori Bracket

            September 23, 2011 at 6:05 pm

            I cant wait for 2012..your demigod ashindwe proper ndio ajue he is not as important as he dreams to be

          • Anonymous

            September 23, 2011 at 6:31 pm

            I do not think you have the powers to correctly predict what is going to happen in 2012- only God knows. For now nobody can be sure.

          • Yori Bracket

            September 23, 2011 at 11:31 am

            No Kikuyu man would rape a LUO woman let alone a mungiki man

          • 1234567

            September 23, 2011 at 12:16 pm

            It is an  open secret Luo women are sweeter than Kikuyu women. Worse, Kikuyu women are not for free, their brown colour is all they sale. Also, the only openly gay Kenyan men are Kikuyus.

          • Guest

            September 23, 2011 at 1:51 pm

            Mister/Miss, Yori, is the epitome of low down, filthy & dirty shame. You don’t need to stoop to his level to make ANY point. In other words, that wasn’t necessary.

          • 1234567

            September 23, 2011 at 3:57 pm

            I agree. I was trying to answer a fool in his folly.

          • Yori Bracket

            September 23, 2011 at 6:11 pm

            NO MUNGIKI would even smell a LUO woman let alone RAPE.

          • 1234567

            September 23, 2011 at 7:52 pm

            So you follow every Mungiki demon to their bedroom to make sure they don’t sleep with a LUO woman. What of all those Kikuyu prostitutes, do they sleep with LUO men?

          • Guest

            September 23, 2011 at 8:37 pm

            My dear, only Yori can degenerate a conversation to this level…leave him alone, lest whatever he’s taking rubs off on you.
            By the way, how many kyuks & luos are happily married, in relationships & banging each other every day like there’s no tomorrow? PLENTY!!!!

          • Yori Bracket

            September 23, 2011 at 6:12 pm

            You are the one the sleeps with Luo women and Kikuyu men so you would know

          • Guest

            September 23, 2011 at 1:39 pm

            So not only are you ignorant, your in chronic, persistent denial…Denial is your daily meal, the day reality will wake you up I know you will go mad…but hey, whatever makes your sun shine brighter!

          • Njore wa Miriru

            September 23, 2011 at 7:15 am

            Sorry, your presentation looks incomprehensible. What are you actually trying to put across. You seem to be handicapped in communicating a point. 

          • Guest

            September 23, 2011 at 10:12 am

            It aint my fault that you’re slow.

      • Oludavin

        September 23, 2011 at 7:48 am

        Guest u tell it as it is!

  3. Georgmutua

    September 22, 2011 at 10:06 pm

    way i see it, Kenyatta and muthaura are in more trouble that the other dudes. The evidence against them already sounds damning…

    • Anonymous

      September 23, 2011 at 6:09 pm

      the crimes mentioned are atrocious! The key is PINNING then on the 2. Everyone agrees that crimes occurred shida ni – can the Ocampo and Co. attribute them to the 2?

      • Aluko

        September 23, 2011 at 8:07 pm

        Where have you been? ICC can only handle a few cases involving those bearing the greatest responsible. A local tribunal should be set up to try the rest. Secondly, even if those two committed these crimes against humanity with others not be before the court, that does not diminish their culpability

  4. Princeb42

    September 23, 2011 at 6:25 am

    i feel for nobodyelse but Ali

  5. Njore wa Miriru

    September 23, 2011 at 7:09 am

    You wonder where the prosecution got this glaringly incorrect information from. For instance, how could Muthaura and Uhuru be planning for Naivasha and Nakuru retaliations when election results had not even been announced? Is Adeboyejo serious when she sites a March 2002 fund-raiser to be part of the PEV plans? As a researcher, I see the main weakness with Moreno’s evidence was because he solely depended on secondary data that he and his team did not bother to verify. You can take this to the bank, the defence team will have a field day punching holes on the prosecution evidence when their turn comes.

    • Oludavin

      September 23, 2011 at 7:47 am

      Njore correct your ignorance: the prosecutor stated that the executions and retaliations were planned long b4 elections coz the PNU wing had decidedd never to let Raila be president. It was in the spirit of protecting or grabbing power at all costs.

      • Anonymous

        September 23, 2011 at 11:17 am

        “the prosecutor stated that the executions and RETALIATIONS were planned long b4 ” – why did they take  so long then? check your dates, the so called planned RETALIATIONS occurred in late January – why didn’t they occur just after? I will tell you the reason…people were preaching peace and hoping everything will workout….but it never happened.  

  6. Anonymous

    September 23, 2011 at 7:15 am

    Lets avoid emotions…..
     

    • Guest

      September 23, 2011 at 10:26 am

      How is that even possible? Human beings are emotional beings…what will happen when the whole truth and nothing but the truth comes out, I.e a full trial? We should not fear the truth, we should embrace it as it’s the only way to heal…It’s like having a deep, rotting wound then covering it with bandages. You’re making the situation worse. When the PEV was hot, people cried for peace, some did not want to hear ‘JUSTICE’. Now that justice is with us we must deal with it, even those emotions.
      This hearings will be charged, naturally because they affected many, whether in Kiambaa, kibera, Nyanza, Sotik etc. Even in the TJRC hearings people break down, when Wagalla massacre was mentioned the people were bitter & broke down. Why? Because over the years, their emotions were deep within waiting to explode, as they were never allowed to express them in a healthy manner.Emotions are okay, expressing them-even when it’s painful, is okay. Responding with violence is not…It’s about time Kenyans get comfortable with the truth, as these things must be said.

      • Sohelu07

        September 23, 2011 at 12:27 pm

        Guys lest us forget the past however bitter it could have been and work together for the future of this country as a united and one nation, one people. It is unfortunate that we went thru such a teerible phase in our life but let us say never again. All of us were affected during the PEV either directly or indirectly and we turned against one another for reasons we can’t tell. Some of us lost so much property and the destruction was caused by people we knew very well as neighbours and family friends. To be frank, even Kukes hates killing one another just like the Luos. It seems OTP has done his home work and it is upon the O-3 to proof their facts. This is the work of lawyers and that is why they are represented by a team of experienced lawyers. The truth is we went thru a sad moment and somebody must pay for this either at the Hague or in Hell. My only worry is that OTP seems more organized and prepared than the O-3. It is not a time for pinpointing fingers but a thorough reflection and praying. Let them clear their names and that and that- is not going to help them as the proof and burden of alibi falls squarelyon them. So far Henry Kosgey and his team of lawyers have done very well. Why the rest cannot copy his approach is beyond me or they are so afraid of Ocampo and have given up to fate- just watch this space and wait for TKO by OTP.

        • Guest

          September 23, 2011 at 2:04 pm

          Sohel, why are you worried that OTP seems more organized & prepared than the 0-3? You’re giving yourself away, this is not about supporting our people. It’s about justice, has it occured to you that they may be ‘less prepared’ because those are the hard facts, you can’t run from the facts.
          Secondly, it is ridiculous to move forward while forgetting the past…or present. Without a past or present you can not have a future.

          • Kenyamoja

            September 23, 2011 at 3:05 pm

            Guest, i’m really with you. Things are elephant here. We only care for justice especially for the victims. Mind you, some of us have no tribal boundary since we came from a mixed tribe relationship with grandparents, uncles, aunts, cousins, sisters and brothers from accross the divide. So we only know Kenya and our interaction revealed that all our relatives were affected by the PEV. It could be true that these are the hard facts but we thought the O-3 might fair better during the hearings having learnt from Kogey and his team of lawyers. I’m now very much worried for them as this Ocampo thing sio achild’s play nor a movie from Nollywood- it might consume some people and consume them completely. Remember people are assumed innocent until proved guilty but things are looking thick here, infact very thick. Watch this space. 

          • Guest

            September 23, 2011 at 5:08 pm

            We’re in agreement. I am passionate for all Kenyans to be treated as humans, regardless of their backgrounds. But there are people bewitched with the sense of entitlement. Which is why I’m very distressed that in this day & age people still want to bury the truth…Like the good book says, all things done in darkness will be brought to light. This is what I look forward to.

  7. Lugz

    September 23, 2011 at 7:44 am

    I am indeed saddened by the fact that after the revelations by the prosecution, we are still arguing on ethnic pedestals. By the virtue that you can comment on this thread, i believe you are accessible to a computer and can type, by all standards a learned fellow. If we can listen to what happened to Kikuyus in RV, Luos, Luhyas, Kalenjins, and generally the whole country by far and wide; I believe its totally irresponsible for any of us to look at this evidence from a tribal inclination. If you have had a chance to engage any of the victims from whichever divide of their political allegiance at the time, that was nothing less than a genocide. What we are hearing and setting tempo to emotions is what is fit for public, who would want to hear or see the confidential material? Ladies and gentlemen, i don’t care where you come from; but my clarion call is that we are in the process of healing head first to another election. this is not the time to whip up emotions. If the six indeed oversaw this atrocities, let them face the full force of the law. REMEMBER, the common is the sufferer always.  Lets unite Kenya.

  8. jeff

    September 23, 2011 at 8:25 am

    My fellow friends i can say that as we follow the proceedings at the Hague, We as Human beings we Justify anyhow  depending to our tribes or anything else but the cold blood can tell exactly what happened, The only thing  is that this 3 guys just to tell Jesus or Mohamed to be their Big lawyer .    

       

  9. Dankit2011

    September 23, 2011 at 8:43 am

    Kenyans let the due process of law take its course. Think of the innocent citizens who lost their families, they said we dont be vague now we are at the Hague. It saddens when we think using not our brains but ethnic brains. Crimes were committed, not by the dead persons but by people who are with us. The judges do not care of our ethnic backgrounds or the riches and power we wield but JUSTICE. 

  10. Apache

    September 23, 2011 at 9:53 am

    these revelations are to say the least horrendous and the magnitude chilling. This makes what we were seeing on TV along Naivasha area and in Nakuru town child’s play. Someone must surely pay for this inhuman acts even Jajaweeds and Fodey Sankoh were not this ruthless!

  11. Senoritadoroda

    September 23, 2011 at 12:15 pm

    Whether Uhuru or Muthaura planned the poll attacks.Is for the court to decide.As a Kenyan my greatest wish is that after the Hague politicians will have learn’t their lesson and that they will never instigate  such kind of violence again.What I find funny though  is how lately the Hague has become the latest tourist attraction site.With tourists coming from all directions. for more on this click on http://www.tusijisunde.com/2011/hague-the-latest-tourist-attraction-site/

  12. Anonymous

    September 23, 2011 at 4:49 pm

    can anyone remember things documented on this blog? http://kenyangenocide.blogspot.com/2008/01/truth-about-kenyan-genocide.html
    I quote…..
    “Today I read a chilling report on the Los Angeles Times on the systematic genocide going on in Kenya. Even more chilling was the video of a man being slashed to death. It reminded me of Rwanda and not Kenya -a country where we once lived in peace, love and unity. The newspater quotes a Raila supporter saying:

    “We are slaughtering them and we will keep on slaughtering them,” said one young protester, Gabriel Okelo, who got up at six and walked nine miles from the outskirts of the city to march in support of Odinga.

    As the political violence worsens, tribal fighting and tit-for-tat killings have been going on in Nairobi’s slums and in other towns.

    Okelo said he killed two people with a machete for the first time Wednesday because “When you are angry, it’s easy. If they refuse our president, Raila Odinga to address the rally, it will happen again. We shall slaughter the Kikuyus. It will go on and on and on, in all parts of the country.”

    By Robyn Dixon, Los Angeles Times Staff Writer 7:19 AM PST, January 3, 2008″

  13. realist

    September 23, 2011 at 5:42 pm

    Some of these articles smack of xenophobia – the editor if not yet deep asleep should moderate them, otherwise it is tantamount to hate speech or is part of a healing process? 

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