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  1. Avatar Qwani November 11th, 2013 at 8:56 pm

    Bwana Raouf, you are free to call it whatever you want, willing or unwilling. At the end of the day the refugees have to all go back home. We all know that the dadaab camp is a source of funding and job creation for the UNHCR. It is in the interest of the UNHCR to have the camp open for as long as possible. Our interest is to shutdown the camp as soon as possible and reduce the threat of terrorism. You might want to start looking for a nice house to move into over in Somalia!!

    1. Avatar Kaa Ngumu November 11th, 2013 at 9:34 pm

      Under international law and the Geneva Convention of which Kenya is a signatory refugees only return to the countries they fled if they are willing to do so. The Kenya government has no power to kick refugees out and that is where the UNHCR comes in. They have to protect all refugees and will not allow forced evacuation.

      1. Avatar Qwani November 11th, 2013 at 10:17 pm

        I’m aware of those “international obligations” that are always thrown at us whenever these kind of situations arise. The Government’s obligations are first and foremost to its citizens. If the threat of terrorism compromises that obligation, the Government has every right to deal with it and protect its citizens. If there are countries that want to willing take the refugees to their country, they are more than welcome to step forward.

  2. Avatar Devobserver November 11th, 2013 at 10:56 pm

    To hell with those international arguments, lets secure our country, with or without Geneva nonsense. UNHCR, please move the camps to Somalia first and fast, then take your dear time to resettle them. How do you expect terrorist elements to “voluntarily” agree to return when they have a mission of killing Kenyans? How I wished Ruto, or Uhuru simply ordered the camps closed before this x-mas, and UNHCR can share the refugees worldwide across all members of the “international community”?

    1. Avatar Kaa Ngumu November 12th, 2013 at 5:19 am

      International law is complex business. Countries that are signatories to the Geneva Convention cannot simply close refugee camps and chase refugees. That is the law and emotional outbursts cannot provide any help. If there are terrorists in refugee camps then arrest them like you would arrest any criminals including Kenyans, take them to court, convict them and after that you can deport them on grounds of engaging in criminal activities. The rule of the jungle of making sweeping allegations and closing refugee camps is not workable. If you don’t want refugees, don’t allow them in your country in the first place. Once you let them in you are stuck. UNHCR does not build refugee camps. They are done by the host country with assistance from UNHCR and once you build them you can’t just uproot them.

      1. Avatar Qwani November 12th, 2013 at 10:06 am

        From your comments, it is clear you aren’t a Kenyan. This makes it rather difficult for you to understand it from our perspective.The camp they reside in has caused environmental damage. Keep in mind they are in a pastoralist area. Water, which is a scarce commodity, has to be shared with the refugees. Insecurity has brought in another dimension into the equation and it must be dealt with. Your suggestion is that we shouldn’t have allowed the refugees in in the first place. That kind of thinking betrays you as being either European or from North America. It is all well and good to make quotes from the international law, but the fact of the matter is that there isn’t a single country out there that is willing to take in all the refugees to their own country abroad. If you hear of one be so kind as to let us know!

    2. Avatar benja November 12th, 2013 at 7:32 am

      Thankfully you are more of a commentator than a decision maker.

  3. Avatar CHRIS OJOW WUOD UGENYA November 12th, 2013 at 9:50 am


  4. Avatar Patriot November 12th, 2013 at 12:31 pm

    No way we need to send the “go back home message” loud and clear. They have repeatedly abused our hospitality

  5. Avatar Xris November 12th, 2013 at 1:05 pm

    Kwani UNHCR is the one calling the shots in Kenya? The question of choice should NOT arise, these people MUST be repatriated & Kakuma & all other refugee camps closed, enough is enough!Kenya has to chart out her destiny without any more interference from outsiders!


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