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  1. Avatar ICC Goes On October 2nd, 2013 at 8:19 pm

    Oh yeah. Witnesses are couched. The cases at the IC are crumbling. Yada Yada. We are fed up. Hand Barasa off to the ICC and let him defend himself there. Do so now.

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    1. Avatar Kwessi Pratt October 3rd, 2013 at 3:28 pm

      Guys have been joking. They dont even realize hostile actions against ICC only widen avenue to jail!

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  2. Avatar marloow October 2nd, 2013 at 8:44 pm

    Er…consequences…or is it Amicus Curiae? Tis the latter why I fully support the ICC process.

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    1. Avatar Kwessi Pratt October 3rd, 2013 at 4:38 pm

      Things are quickly thickening believe you me.

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  3. Avatar Qwani October 2nd, 2013 at 10:17 pm

    Let us wait patiently to hear what Barasa has to say!!

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    1. Avatar Natty Dread October 3rd, 2013 at 3:42 pm

      Barasa’s statement is on line at Kenya Stckholm Blog dot com.

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      1. Avatar Kwessi Pratt October 3rd, 2013 at 4:37 pm

        What he says doesnt matter! After all, he has to say something anyway. Thieves even feign innocence when caught red handed. The fact of the matter is that he is now unwilling guest of ICC. Get good lawyers and lots of witnesses. Anything short of that ……….!!!!

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        1. Avatar Natty Dread October 3rd, 2013 at 6:16 pm

          You have already judged and convicted the man, so I do not expect you to give credence to his statement, even if his collected records, phone logs and financial statements should match what he says about the ICC’s Mr. Irani.

          It is your kind of presumptions of guilt and the infallibility of the ICC that have alienated the court from the populace. The March polls ought to have taught you something.

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          1. Avatar Kwessi Pratt October 4th, 2013 at 10:55 am

            Come on Natty! Obviously, your take is impertiality can only mean blinding yourself against all possibilities. The fact that this Barasa fellow had potential to turn his ICC contacts to a cashcow doesnt even enter your head! Warrants cant be issued on basis of mere disagreements. Element of criminal conduct has to be there first.
            March 4th presidential election was a major

          2. Avatar Natty Dread October 5th, 2013 at 1:04 am

            “The fact that this Barasa fellow had potential to turn his ICC contacts to a cashcow doesnt even enter your head!”

            According to Bensouda’s warrant, Barasa was an intermediary for the ICC. IMO, intermediaries are cash-donkeys. They are given money to find, screen, ‘counsel and instruct’ witnesses. Apparently, they also take care of transporting candidates and their families to protection addresses. So, the ICC uses money liberally to line up witnesses, but is now hypocritically suggesting that Barasa offered them even MORE money to buy their withdrawal? Pot and kettle story.

            I do not know why you went into a tangent about the elections and rehashed that tired story on ‘stolen elections’, but you’re not the only one trapped in that myth.

          3. Avatar Kwessi Pratt October 7th, 2013 at 12:07 pm

            I thought you said somebody should have learned a lesson on March 4th election? Or you are too confused to figer out what you said? And whatever the case, Barasa is being accused of using money from obvious sources to tamper with witnesses. These other coils and recoils wont even find a space at ICC.

          4. Avatar Natty Dread October 7th, 2013 at 1:52 pm

            I still maintain that the March polls were a referendum on The Hague. Pro ICC hounds need to rethink their overall strategy. The more they personalize this case and continue to convict political foes by innuendo, the less credible this case and the ICC court become.

            Money from obvious sources? Name them if you really know.

      2. Avatar Qwani October 3rd, 2013 at 7:31 pm

        Thanks for the info. I don’t think some of the guys making comments in this forum have read it.

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        1. Avatar Natty Dread October 3rd, 2013 at 11:08 pm

          They never read anything, but just comment on the basis of their hard-baked prejudices and a fawning admiration of Ocampo and Bensouda.

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  4. Avatar CHRIS OJOW WUOD UGENYA October 3rd, 2013 at 10:13 am

    MEMBERS OF THE FOURTH ESTATE , LET US PROTECT THE IMAGE OF OUR PROFESSION AND INTEGRITY, BY BEING OBJECTIVE AND NEUTRAL. AT THE MOMENT ONE OF US IS IN ICC.

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    1. Avatar Kwessi Pratt October 3rd, 2013 at 4:40 pm

      He is a “former” J!

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  5. Avatar Natty Dread October 3rd, 2013 at 3:13 pm

    “Even as the AG said the warrant of arrest will not be implemented immediately, ICC Prosecutor told a press conference at The Hague that the court expected Kenya “to immediately arrest Barasa and hand him over to the ICC.””

    PR stunts back and forth. I wonder when Bensouda is going to get a warrant of arrest against the Westgate Al Shabaab, and where she’s going to serve the warrant.

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  6. Avatar Kwessi Pratt October 3rd, 2013 at 3:22 pm

    The moment we realize ICC is NOT a joke the better. AG Muigai seems hellbent in giving ICC run rounds in the name of local court processes. But he is ignoring the fact that even the big guys NEVER went through local courts before they landed in ICC. Either he is well advised to co-operate, or he would some day end up at ICC. This matter is too grave indeed!!!!

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    1. Avatar Natty Dread October 3rd, 2013 at 3:41 pm

      You are ignoring the fact that the ‘big guys’ went willingly to The Hague and continue to do so. There was no warrant to be considered.

      It would be immensely entertaining to see the OTP issue a warrant of arrest against the AG for following laid down ICC procedures. The Prosecutor is supposed to rely on state parties for the arrest.

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      1. Avatar Kwessi Pratt October 3rd, 2013 at 4:28 pm

        When our president and his deputy are before ICC as suspects, our case becomes unique and sensitive. Its a catch22 situation! Failure to execute warrants would only mean the two leaders are NOT co-operating. Thus, necessitating stern action against them. Is either you obey or face the music. No other choice at all! AG would only become one of senior officials fighting ICC!

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        1. Avatar Natty Dread October 3rd, 2013 at 6:13 pm

          Mr. Pratt, I do not think that the AG is saying that he will not execute the warrant IF it passes muster.

          What I do think is that he has a duty to follow procedures and safeguard Kenya from arbitrary orders of immediate arrest of Kenyan citizens, more so when the timing and wording of Bensouda’s request appear to stem from a disagreement with a former intermediary, and her personal frustration at linking the two principles on the dock with their alleged crimes.

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  7. Avatar Natty Dread October 6th, 2013 at 3:53 pm

    The Kenyan authorities and Walter Barasa would be fools to accede to Bensouda’s ‘orders’ without testing their legality. It would set a precedent and give the OTP a carte blanche to got the Judges and then the media, name a Kenyan she wants to muzzle as a suspect, and have them delivered to the Hague, then tried and convicted in “private sessions”.

    It is obvious that Barasa represents something insidious in the ICC system: intermediaries gone rogue by empathizing with witnesses whose belief in their stories is wobbling.

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    1. Avatar Kwessi Pratt October 7th, 2013 at 4:03 pm

      Given that Kenya’s big guys never went through court motions to land at ICC, the country has no choice but to hand over this Barasa fellow. Acts that have all markings of non-cooperation with ICC while our leaders are there, can only prejudice their cases.

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      1. Avatar Natty Dread October 7th, 2013 at 4:48 pm

        The country has choice, but your blinkers will not let you see that. Which sovereign state in the world just surrenders any person that the ICC says it wants, without examining the facts?

        The Barasa case deserves even more scrutiny, given that there seems to be bad blood between the ICC and an ex-agent. It is like an employer abusing his authority to punish an errant employee.

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  8. Avatar Jongere October 6th, 2013 at 8:41 pm

    @disqus_lO5CAKdrrk:disqus you are a very big kenyan propagandist goebbel-tyle but amateur to him. You see what I mean. ICC is an International court and whatever you say will not help. Seek help for your psychopathic tendencies.

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    1. Avatar Natty Dread October 7th, 2013 at 1:53 pm

      Matusi will not change anything, my friend. Argue your own points.

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  9. Avatar Jongere October 6th, 2013 at 8:42 pm

    @disqus_lO5CAKdrrk:disqus hhhhhhhhh

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  10. Avatar Jongere October 6th, 2013 at 8:54 pm

    I have no slightest sympathy for schemers and thieves.

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