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ICC is not Kenya where we conduct inquiries into everything and do nothing. Inquiry into the brutal killing of Robert Ouko. Where did that lead? Inquiry in the death of 50 police officers slaughtered in Baragoi? Where did that lead? Inquiry into the killing of 200 people in Tana River county? Zero. Inquiry into the circus of the Artur brothers. Nothing. We will know about the ICC investigations as the trial goes on but can you also tell us how Kenya investigations into the PEV murders of 1,300 Kenyans have gone. How many people have we convicted? How about zero. Now we are rightly mad about Al Shabaab killing over 70 Kenyans. Where is the outrage about the terrorists of PEV who killed 20 times more Kenyans. Hypocicy will us all.
No…continue with the cases…AND conduct an inquiry..
Your thinking harkens to the days of Kenyatta Pere and Moi when cases targeting the rich and powerful were arbitrarily stopped or suspended by orders from “above”…and you are a “lawyer”….
There is no way the OTP will prosecute witnesses who lie. The ICC will not conduct any sort of investigations whatsoever into the performance of the OTP despite the glaring inefficiencies and ineptitude. You can comfortably take that to the bank.
It is amazing that with all the claims about “OTP ineffiencies and ineptitude” the accused duo and their supporters are terrified to death about the trial and want it stopped immediately. What exactly are they afraid of? Last week when a Kiambaa terrorism survivor came to testify Uhuruto supporters in the social media wanted her stoned to death and she had to be saved by the judges from the hate mongers and evil people who don’t want the trial to go on and would rather have her burnt to death in that tomb of a church. Very shameful.
You have got it all wrong. In case you aren’t aware, the statements on inefficiencies on the part of the OTP has come from the ICC judges themselves and not from UhuRuto supporters. As for the rest of your comment, there is a lot of exaggeration there which is well below my dignity to find worthy in responding to.
The trial resumes on Wednesday next week infront of the ICC judges in Trial Chamber V(a). That is as it should be. What is the problem? ICC cases are very complex. Read the Lubanga case and you will get a glimpse of what awaits Uhuruto. Monkey business hardly works there. You will find out. Certainly. Poa. If Uhuru and Ruto are innocent they will walk free. If they are guilty as charged they will rot in jail or run into caves as international criminal fugitives. Same as Osama bin Laden. That is what it is. Put simply.
Unfortunately, thats the reality of things today. Of course, its clearly coming out apparent “innocent” people are afraid of justice. Their supporters are even prepared to incite hatred and violence that their masters are ironically charged with! The illogic in which these grave charges are being met with is unbelievable. Innocent people Kenya Yetu dont go about furiously kicking everything in their way to impose that purported innocence. They patiently wait for their day in court to ashame accusers. You dont even incite your neighbors to take action against the court in which you stand accused. You then move to toothless continental bodies, with several possible ICC candidates, to incite a pull out from that same same court. These are NOT acts of an innocent person. In a normal court process, you easily get cited for contempt of court when you engage in these hostile acts. Innocence is displayed by obvious calmness and ability to embrace thats right.
Er…consequences….
accept and move on…some of us have….
Dann Mwangi, consequences setting in?! Accept And Move on… 🙂
Good piece!
Very True….results of copy pasting investigations are being unmasked by Khan.
Some of the important issues that seem to have been somehow downplayed or neglected are:
Statements by ODM prior to the election date in 2007
Actions by ODM activists in the tally centre – notably in attempting to leave out crucial votes for Central Province constituencies
The delay in returning results from 5 big voter Central Province constituencies
The voter tally without the five
The actual numbers in the big 5
The mathematical impact on the tally with the results of the 6 included
The nature of alterations on the results from the big 5 when finally delivered to the tally centre (adding of 20,000 to each of the results to justify attempted rigging of final results)
The exact wording of ODM leader call for mass action and the call for the swearing in of “the peoples’ president at Uhuru park” – what was intention and anticipated impact?
The actions of Kibera youths in response to the call for mass action
The reasons for and the nature of Mungiki involvement
The Mungiki declaration and impact of “kill one Kikuyu, we kill three” – this probably was the one most important factor that stopped the violence
The fact that it was not possible to expect the Kikuyu’s to witness endless mascres without retaliatory action
It did not require ‘organising or planning’ for an already existing Mungiki group of radical youths to join the fray
Before elections government was fighting Mungiki
For the 2013 elections Mungiki formed a political party and joinrd a coalition of ‘choice’ with public pronouncements
the previous political track record of the ODM leader including role in 1982 attempted coup
The Waki commission conduct and reporting under the office of the PM
The entry into Kenya of ICC via office of PM
The ICC witnesses and the Waki report
The ICC charges of ‘ODM planned violence’ in advance of elections – who planned for whose benefit?
Allegations of imposters among witnesses and possible third party involvement in witness procurement
Proper attention to the above would help clear the air and advance the cause of justice rather than appear to conduct a prosecution for the sake of proving a point or as an act of political convenience.
the notorious Waki list must be reopened. moreno ocampo did not prosecute Raila, Nyongo and Kibaki
President Uhuru Kenyatta should have by now charged them with crimes against humanity, give new different evidence largely incriminating them. As head of state he has access to all that happened. But for strange reasons, he wants to be left alone without telling those who care, “these are the REAL criminal suspects and are already facing the full force of the law!!!!”
The fact that witnesses have been withdrawing from ICC cases has nothing to do with the gravity of the charges. But rather mere realization that they are up against powerful lot indeed. Certainly, if witnesses have been withdrawing out of other concerns, then suspects should sit comfortably and go through what would, in the circumstances, be cleansing exercise by ICC. That would even given them moral authority to take on those they seem to believe were truly behind 2007/8 PEV. Thus, mere unsubstantiated charges against OTP wont do the trick. Relying on mercenaries of questinable characters to discredit OTP wont help either. If anything, it will only increase suspicion against suspects!
Since Kenya installed criminal suspects as leaders, concerted illogical efforts have been employed to let them off the hook. However, that has been done without addressing the core issue of criminal involvement. It seems mere installation to leadership was apparently supposed to cancel charges. Even the fact that one resigned from a ministerial post because of integrity problems, and comically moved up the ladder, is being kept in the dark. And that happened without any clerance of issues that led to resignation. Of course, pattern here quickly forms. That with or without charges things had to be done the Kenyan way, – where impunity runs riot!
Interesingly, reasons being advanced to drop charges are the same same ones that civil society groups presented before “our now reformed courts” in their failed attempt to bar suspects from running for offices. Obviously, our “much reformed” courts were prevailed upon not to touch the matter. Indeed suspects never saw the obstacles they are now facing. False belief that once elected by the people, criminal liability ceases clouded everything.
AU is a composition of ruthless blood thirsty individuals. Who are NOT taken seriously by international community. Infact, most of them expect someday have a date with ICC! That alone morally disqualifies them from making any kind of noise at all, .. at all!!!!
Mr. Mwangi, the evidence is out, the witnesses did not pull out but were bought and coerced out !, hence her claims were not baseless