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Kenyan MPs insist on consensus talks
BY ANTHONY KAGIRI Updated : 171days and 14 hours and 26 minutes ago |
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NAIROBI, Kenya, Mar 15 - Close to 100 Members of Parliament now want the debate on the Proposed Constitution set to begin on Tuesday shelved and instead a consensus building retreat that aborted last week rescheduled.
Meeting under the Parliamentary Caucus for Reforms on Monday, the MPs proposed to re-table a Motion of adjournment on Tuesday afternoon after a previous attempt last week faced defeat. The lawmakers feel it is necessary for them to hold an informal session to thrash out the contentious issues before debate in the House.
“We have resolved it will be necessary to adjourn the normal sittings so that we can go and talk and reach an understanding on issues that are not clear,” said the convener of the group Garsen MP Danson Mungatana.
“We intend to execute our role as stipulated in the law in a cordial but very organised manner.”
The MPs sent a petition to the Speaker so that the adjournment Motion can be included in Tuesday’s order of Parliamentary business.
Twenty five MPs defeated last week’s Motion claiming that the retreat was meant to mutilate the Proposed Constitution. Those who supported the retreat numbered 23.
Mr Mungatana told a press conference that the MPs identified 25 issues they termed as contentious but was quick to add that they were determined to reach a compromise on the issues and approach debate from a common view.
Major controversial issues included the date of general elections, abortion, powers of the Senate, fresh vetting of judges, the number of MPs, the revenue allocation commisssion and the role of the Prime Minister in making new appointments.
Mr Mungatana said they would request experts to be included in the retreat to explain to MPs the diverse issues.
“We do not want what happened in 2005 to repeat itself. We want to debate in a manner that will inform. Not one that will create confusion and acrimony,” said the Garsen MP.
Monday’s meeting was dominated by backbenchers and Assistant Ministers but was also attended by Cabinet Ministers William Ruto, Mutula Kilonzo, Sam Ongeri, Amos Kimunya, Esther Murugi, Yusuf Haji, Beth Mugo and Amason Kingi.
Most of the legislators were not in the House during the defeated adjournment Motion last Wednesday, as some had already travelled to Naivasha ahead of the retreat that was to take place between Thursday and Saturday.
Once debate on the draft begins, any amendment must garner the support of 145 MPs to pass.
“Every MP represents a segment of the Kenyan people and if he/she feels there is an item he would want addressed then he must be given the opportunity to seek the support of 145 MPs,” said Justice and Constitutional Affairs Minister Mutula Kilonzo.
The Proposed Constitution was tabled in the House two weeks ago for a 30-day debate period provided the law. The Committee of Experts on the Constitution will have seven days to incorporate any amendments made before the documents returns back to Parliament.
The draft will then be forwarded to the AG for publication ahead of the referendum.
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| Comments (9) posted |
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| naneyashida (March 16th, 2010, 4:49 PM) |
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| whichever way, man dominates man to his injury. |
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| Dorothy (March 16th, 2010, 12:16 PM) |
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| Can we begin shaming MPs who want to go thru the back door (with retreats!!!)-PNU MPs, William Samoei Ruto n others- THESE ONES MUST BE KEPT ACCOUNTABLE. The media should question their motives n try n reach their constituents. Kenyans lets speak out against this in the vernacular stations where the masses will hear. We will not allow mutilation of the draft Constitution. Let them go and debate it in parliament. Do these MPs know how precarious Kenya's situation is if we continue delaying reforms?!!!NKT. Money has made them mad. but we have the power, we will not allow this nation to go the dogs. |
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| MAURICE (March 16th, 2010, 11:57 AM) |
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| we need not hypocrits in the leadership of this country.the face of those lobbying for retreats are insincere and want to take kenyans for granted. why do politicians want to armtwist us voters?why do want to retain deffective part in the constitution just you are against an individual(s) who are after bringing changes to this country?politicians you need to understand that kenya is not for Raila and Kibaki and their families forever. they will also pass and leave other leaders to continue the leadership of this country. think about this that this document is not a temporary one but is that to stay for many years. if you MPs are still lobbying for restoration of defective clauses in the constitution then we would rather stop the process and we continue with the current one and wait for 2012 to come and realise massive killing than those witnessed in 2008. |
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| kneegrow (March 16th, 2010, 11:00 AM) |
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| Nyanza, Western, Coast, NEP and Nairobi ODM friendly MPs can make sure the draft is not mutilated by parliement. They have the numbers to make sure the house does not raise 145 MPs to change the draft. Let the public decide during the referundum. |
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| ogolla paul (March 16th, 2010, 10:15 AM) |
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| no wonder some Mps who were at Naivasha want some amendments in the draft and they in the first place said the draft they produced was the best draft ever ,we are reading some mischief in this retreat. |
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| kecho (March 16th, 2010, 1:04 AM) |
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| That's total stupidity. Days of going to retreats - naivasha, mombasa etc are numbered and the MPs are desperate to "eat till the last minutes". My challenge is for all the kenyan voters to keep an eye on their respective Mps in their constituents. Muriuki and Linturi --- you are definitely on the watch list. Be careful or you will be swept by Tsunami come the next election. But i dont think the amendments will be possible i.e. Nyanza and western Mps and Coast, Northern kenyan will have the final say. |
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| njuguna mwangi (March 15th, 2010, 8:30 PM) |
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| Do you think these MPs are going to agree on anything? If it is along party lines: ODM wants the Draft as is. PNU wants it changed. Talking about consensus, what is PNU, for example, willing to compromise on? Why do they want to do it behind the cameras? Will they take into account what Kenyans told CoE they wanted? What a waste of time. |
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| Waste of Time (March 15th, 2010, 6:08 PM) |
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| These people are wasting time and they want to waste more taxpayer money. The law is very clear. Any amendment in the CoE Draft cannot be done unless 148 M.Ps vote for such amendment in the National Assembly. Nothing can be done to the Draft in any Retreat. Stop this nonsense. |
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| Goerge Wanjau (March 15th, 2010, 5:40 PM) |
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| The civil society activists should read this and understand.......they had their time arm twisting the Committee of experts it is time for MPs to seek consensus..... |
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