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Kenya will not hand over suspects to ICC

BY LABAN WANAMBISI
Updated : 288days and 13 hours and 34 minutes ago

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NAIROBI, Kenya Nov 18 - Prime Minister Raila Odinga told Parliament on Wednesday that the country was not ready to cede its sovereignty by handing over its citizens to be tried in foreign courts.

He said Kenya was not a failed state and had a functioning judiciary, in response to concerns by Ikolomani MP Bonny Khalwale who challenged the government’s commitment to ending the culture of impunity.

“For the government to agree to refer (people for trial) to another jurisdiction will be abdication of its responsibility.  We have a system that’s working but we will cooperate if the International Criminal Court (ICC) decides to proceed,” he said during his weekly address to the National Assembly.

The Premier was taken to task by MPs who sought details of resolutions that were reached during a meeting he held with President Mwai Kibaki and ICC Chief Prosecutor Louis-Moreno Ocampo a fortnight ago.

Mr Khalwale said: “We adopted the Waki Report recommendations in total; and the recommendation were that failure to set up a local process would immediately render the whole matter being referred to The Hague and you have told us you have refused.”

Chepalungu MP Isaac Ruto caused laughter in the House when he sought clarification from the Prime Minister: “Can the PM clarify whether it is in normal practice for the prosecutor of the ICC to have meeting with possible suspects?”

In his response Mr Odinga said: “The list by Mr Waki`s team has not been made public. So virtually everybody is a suspect including Isaac Ruto,”

Mr Odinga however urged Kenyans not to be scared of possible indictment by the ICC.

“So many names may be in that list for Mr Ocampo. Even my name… and I have said Mr Speaker, if my name is there and they carry out investigations and I am found to be culpable, Mr Speaker, I am ready to face the trial to prove my innocence,” Mr Odinga said.

“Even if you are charged it doesn’t mean you are guilty.  So why is this thing causing too much tension. Too much fear?” Let Mr Ocampo come and do his investigation.”

The Prime Minister was responding to a request by Mr Khalwale who sought details of the two-hour closed-door meeting between the PM, the President and Mr Ocampo at Harambee House.

During the meeting, Mr Ocampo announced that he was to request ICC judges to open investigation into the Kenya case next month, after the government declined to formally refer the matter to The Hague.

Earlier in the day, debate on Bill seeking to establish a local Special Tribunal stalled yet again, due to a quorum hitch.

Only nine MPs were present in the chamber during debate on the crucial Bill, forcing temporary Speaker Phillip Kaloki to adjourn Wednesday morning’s sittings.

Tetu MP F.T. Nyammo notified Prof Kaloki of the lack of quorum, cutting short Laikipia West MP Ndiritu Muriithi’s contribution. Earlier Gwassi MP John Mbadi tried to prompt the Speaker to call for a vote on the Bill, saying absence of MPs signified lack of interest in the Bill.

When the bell was rang, six more MPs walked in, bringing the total to 14,  which is 16 less than would have required to constitute a quorum.  However, when a vote to be taken on such a Bill, you need at least 145 MPs, or two thirds of the country’s lawmakers to pass it.

Last week, debate on the Bill was halted barely after three MPs had made their contributions.

Earlier, Ikolomani MP Bonny Khalwale and Kabando wa Kabando of Mukurweini opposed the Bill saying it was unlikely to have any impact.

“You are therefore saying we send the Republic of Kenya on a rollercoaster?” Dr Khalwale posed when he opposed the Bill. 

“This is mischief. I beg to oppose because my conscience and foresight tells me it is unlikely to have any impact,” Mr Kabando said.

But MPs Mohamed Affey and David Ngugi (Kinangop MP) urged their colleagues to support the Bill to ensure justice for post poll chaos victims.

Mr Affey said:  “We have failed to use the laws that we have to try the crimes committed in this country. It’s an indictment of a collective failure of leadership all of us are guilty of.  I want to support this Bill since it gives the opportunity to reclaim that.”

“The other duty about this Bill is the only legislation in this country on the table now that provides or calls for compensation for victims,” his Kinangop counterpart added.

 
Comments (13) posted
Nyaribo (November 19th, 2009, 5:03 PM)
im dreaming this those words come PMs mouth dont belive it but is there will be something from Huge in Dec
 
nyangumi (November 19th, 2009, 2:31 PM)
From his words, he may have been tipped that his name is in the envelope. soon he will start saying yaliyopita si ndwele, tugange yajayo
 
betty lelmett (November 19th, 2009, 1:48 PM)
Those responsible with the shipping of Kenyan suspects to the ICC are afraid because they may be the ones listed.God bless Kenya.
 
safari (November 19th, 2009, 1:21 PM)
This country belongs to the 4 BIG family thats why there is no truth no direction GOD help our country
 
frank (November 19th, 2009, 10:46 AM)
impunity redefined wololo
 
simon. (November 19th, 2009, 9:31 AM)
I don't understand why the opiniated kenyans don't understand simple things. Waki report did not ask the government to hand over anyone. It simply say people will be tried at the icc in the Hague. The icc has its own mechanism and processes. If they want to move in, as the government says, they are most welcome to proceed.As usual Kenyans only understand mob justice and violence. Very few people can ever be convicted at the hague because it is not based on balance of probabilities but rather proof beyond an iota of doubt. just relax Kenyans. Let us see any single person who was specifically appointed by anyone to cause violence coming forward. Don't just throw stones.
 
ROBENA (November 19th, 2009, 8:20 AM)
I WONDER WHY THE HONORABLE PRIME MINISTER INDULGES HIMSELF IN ENTIRELY EVERY AFFAIR FROM RUNNING LOCAL FOOTBALL,FORESTS,WHO IS GOING TO HAGUE & HOW,OF HALF BREADS & CARPETS UNPERFOMING ROGUE HYES........WE ARE TIRED OF OF HIS AMBIGUITY.WE CAN MAKE BETTER PMs!!!!!!!!!!!!.
 
peter hard (November 19th, 2009, 2:13 AM)
i hope kenyans are watching, Its time to see the true colors of this guys. the time of rhetoric is gone, we are watching.....and those who thought you would help and were shouting to the rest, those who went to the street and were beaten, those IDPs, those the loved once were killed....what are you going to tell them ? that nothing went wrong and its alright ?
 
Francis (November 18th, 2009, 11:25 PM)
Mr. PM if it walks like a duck-looks like a duck-sounds like a duck-IT IS A DUCK.You say kenyan courts cannot settle electral disputes-call for international mediation-say kenya will not have peace untill you get what you want-call for mass action that leads to death of more than a thousand and a displacement of thousands-and you say if Ocampo has evidence he should present it to you? I AGREE WITH HON. RUTO-THE TWO OF YOU SHOULD MEET OCAMPO IN CHAINS-YOU ARE THE REASON THE COUNTRY BLEEDS.Stop the chest thumping and seek forgiveness from the women and children suffering this minute.You cannot change the goal post to suite your argument every time.We know who should be in the envelope-TWO PEOPLE ONLY.The rest are criminals on hire-the courts and God will take care of them.
 
karis35 (November 18th, 2009, 9:18 PM)
Politicians are real chameleon,can change without a notice depending on environment.After Agwambo lost election, he even told international media how judges in kenya are pro PNU.Today he fully supports the same judicially.
 
ARTHUR NJUGUNA (November 18th, 2009, 9:15 PM)
It is true that justice delayed is just denied. The country country had failed to quel the violence at the right time. I am not sure that it will ever do it and remember Kofi Anan went straight for reconciliation. This issue looks now like nothing but fodder for 2012 elections.
 
Suma (November 18th, 2009, 8:47 PM)
If you do not want or not able to try them within and they can be tried in Hague, Why not. What do you mean "cooperate". Doesn't that mean arrect and hand over per ICC request? When did you start being vague MR. Raila.
 
garissa (November 18th, 2009, 7:40 PM)
AGWABO I thought you are man of change and jactice where did it went wrong you have been brian washed hahahahahaha
 
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