Kenya not bothered by Obama’s snub – Ruto

The Deputy President said that there are other friendly nations that Kenya can partner up with/FILE

The Deputy President said that there are other friendly nations that Kenya can partner up with/FILE

NAIROBI, Kenya, Jun 30 – Deputy President William Ruto has expressed the government’s respect for the decision by US President Barrack Obama not to visit Kenya.

Ruto said it is within his right but emphasised that this will not halt the running of government.

The Deputy President said that there are other friendly nations that Kenya can partner up with.

“We respect America but Obama’s failure to visit the country does not stop us running the government. We have other friendly nations we will partner with,” Ruto said.

Speaking during an interactive session with youths from Africa on Saturday, Obama had said that the “timing was not right” for him to travel to Kenya, his father’s homeland, during his current Africa tour, but he expected to visit many times in the future.

“I was very proud to see the restraint with which the election was held. We did not see a repeat of the violence that we saw in the last election. With the new administration that is also having to manage some of the international issues around the issues of the ICC, I did not think it was the optimal time for me to visit Kenya,” Obama had said.

He stated that the new government of President Uhuru Kenyatta was still finding its feet after an election in March, and was “still working out issues with the international community”.

He was referring to a looming trial for President Uhuru Kenyatta and Deputy President William Ruto at the International Criminal Court for their alleged roles in deadly violence that killed more than 1,000 people after 2007 polls.

“The timing was not right for me as president of the United States to be visiting Kenya when those issues need to be worked on,” Obama said.

But the US leader said he had visited Kenya multiple times before he was president and expected to return.

“My personal ties to the people of Kenya, by definition are going to be strong and will stay strong,” he said.

His Africa tour started in Senegal, then South Africa and he is expected to wrap up his week-long journey in Tanzania.

  • george

    who cares anyway!!!!

    • Joshua Ngaatu

      Maybe Luos, Luhyas, Kambas, Mijikenda, Sections of Kisiis, Maasais, Turkana, Taita, Pokomo among others do care, but surely Gema and Kalenjin do not give a hoot about it along sizeable section of others.

      • Gabby

        Too much tribalism will harm you…….

        • Joshua Ngaatu

          My Brother..not really, it depends on the ideological side you hinge. If you accept reality you wont leave in a hypocritic society like ours, where we are the real cause of the disease” while at the same time pretending as if its non-existent. Tribalism is the DNA determining political reasoning hence socio-political existence. I dont think am a tribalist but a realist. “Just ask “kenyans”depending on tribal basis to get your viewpoints on Obama e.t.c a.k.a westerners

          • Gabby

            Then it is NOT a duty to breath new life or propagate it’s very existence. That is what you have signed up for as its unwavering agent on public blog… You now own that infamous stage…. Easy to say the government doesn’t care but the opposition does without lists of which communities comprise what side…..

          • marloow

            But it is the duty of every Kenyan to confront the root cause of tribalism by calling it out whenever they observe it. Kenyans will mitigate the impact of tribalism by confronting it head-on.
            Sweeping the country’s ills, including tribalism and corruption under the rug by telling those who call them our to “move on” or accusing them as “non-Kenyans” or “tribalistic” will only breath new life into the practise.
            Our leaders..and the government both propagate tribalism by the decisions they make. With power comes responsibility. Rather than act out the tyranny of the majority, supporters of Jubilee should realize that they have more responsibility to the losers than they seem to realize.
            The hubris and arrogance displayed by a surprisingly large number of Kenyans, especiall in cyberspace does not auger well for the country’s ability to get over its fissures.

          • Kwessi Pratt

            There cant be better future if a contested win, that has seen a million presidential votes go unaccounted for, becomes basis to harrass and insult others. President has also not attempted to caution his foot soldiers against spreading tribal hatred. Its actually ironical because when Uhuru took the stand as an accused in the Hague, he accused former prime minister of having failed to use his political voice to calm matters. Alot of jubilee supporters seem to believe anyone not in their camp is an enemy. Government which is already showing signs of being in hurry to display power, has failed to nib in the bud that increasingly alarming threat to peace.

          • Ilovemycountry

            I believe that certain people are trying to undermine the governments voice, and are using tribal sentiments to boot. All we proved as Kenyans is that we are no cleverer than goats or sheep because we allowed ourselves to be conditioned into thinking that because someone is from a certain area that they will 100% have certain habits. And that is nothing to do with the government. The government is made of many tribes, and you only have to go into the civil service to see that. Many Kenyans dont value diversity. They believe that rights are obtained by taking away rights from others. Very sad.

          • Kwessi Pratt

            Why would certain people undermine government at this early hour? Given promises rolled out just before March 4 elections, government has failed to meet expectations of Kenyans. That coupled with unnecessary wild expenditures, pugnacious supporters and failure by it to say a thing, you can be sure things can only get worse. Am sure you have read some stuff up here clearly saying only Kalenjins and Kikuyus matter! Government is supposed to come out very strongly in favor of unity. However, it has allowed its bloggers to run wild. Even in social places, its not very hard to hear folks propagating raw tribalism. GOVERNMENT IS NOT JUST FOR ITS SUPPORTERS, ITS FOR ALL KENYANS! We are certainly taking the wrong turn. The policy of all inclusive government MUST be made a reality. But if it was a mere song meant to molify people who were badly hurt, it wont take long before fruits of hatred come calling.

          • Joshua Ngaatu

            Unfortunately thats what causes problems in many societies more so in African set up. Assumption of weakness or superiority is always dangerous to both the weak and superior. What happens when resources are discovered is sheer madness which destroyes a country fabric, and instead of finding solution we use blind assumptions. What happens when Nyanza discovers Oil or Gas or anything, Coast discovers something like Gas/Oil , steel e.t.c , Ukambani discovers Coal or another thing, and Western and Turkana e.t.c and the presume the goverment is against them by tribal affiliations, whats the by product of that? Or resources are in Central, Upper Eastern, Kalenjin e.t.c and assume a specific coalition of tribes is against them? Whats the by-product of that? Thats a reality which needs to be adressed as the more it piles it generates desperation and protection of “our resources” which in the end creating a one nation(by geography) but segmented by ethnic boundaries and calls for more autonomy in regions (decentralisation to majimboism will increase further), thats a FACT. It needs a sober and effective ethnic balancing and prudent socio-politico order to ensure politics is not about ethnic competition but a political process to benefit all but not ethnic brinksmanship as losers will be all..

          • Gabby

            ……..’supporters of Jubilee should realize that they have more responsibility to the losers’……. Who is busy doing manifesto-implementation gatherings in retreats of ‘zone-appropriate’ governors as if these were two countries and bilateral development accords being signed all over? Talk about ‘having obligations to winners too! What hypocrisy!

          • marloow

            Huh?
            I am confused by your response…presumably to my post. Can you be more specific in your comment.

          • Gabby

            CORD is busy implementing their manifesto and (CORD) Governors are attending retreats on ‘how to’. That is what needs to be called out because it is the BIGGEST threat to National Unity in my view. County Commissioners can only try to ‘hold together’ as much. Calling out tribalism – the ever-changing face of Kenya’s personality politics. is very fluid because today’s adversaries WILL be tomorrow’s GREAT friends and even running mates……… That is the constant…..

          • marloow

            Ah..OK..
            you do realize that in order to implement its “manifesto,” Jubilee does need to work with CORD members..unless they want to implement said manifesto regardless of what CORD thinks…which is what is happening ergo the “threat to national unity”…
            I do agree that today’s adversaries are tomorrows best friends…or as they say..in politics there are no permanent friends/enemies…just interests..
            the problem with Kenya is that tribal affiliation trumps national development…and national unity. I believe that the only way to change that paradigm is for those in power – UK, Ruto – to publically act against tribalism…..substantively and symbolically…something I thought UK started when he attended Okuta’s funeral in Nyando and walked hand-in-hand with Raila towards the grave of the deceased…Had he followed that up with a cabinet (including PSs) that reflected regional balance he would have had sufficient goodwill in the bank to implement the less popular items of his manifesto

          • Gabby

            I have never seen a country that is NOT a federal state and that has manifestos implemented differentially save for Kenya! Working with other party’s members in manifesto implementation is not the issue BUT you see it in Parliament and how the MPs debate along their master’s whims AND realize the country is indeed rent right along tribal lines these being reinforced by the very people who talk against it while going ahead to a retreat to ‘order’ Governors to implement their manifesto in total gusto as though the county is geo-physically divided!

          • Joshua Ngaatu

            Cord can rally their governors even after 3 months to see if their manifesto is being implemented to their satisafction..Jubilee can assess too through the national goverment. Is it tribal to see cord whipping their governors to implement their agendas, but okay if they work with national goverment? We have national budget and county budget, Jubilee has national goverment to implement their manifesto, and there is mini-budget for county to implement their own programs. Why should Muranga and Uasin Gishu be the same as Siaya and Kilifi? Due to unfortunate tribalism practised by both parties, you cannot see it die at the election but will continue even after election due to our ethnic differences. Our country is one by geographic boundaries but divided on ethnic lines, thats something we need to accept for now

          • Gabby

            Okay then, so then split the country according to you! Let us not pretend – some counties are actually subsidizing others! You cannot pull in opposing directions whether you are Jubilee or CORD and hope for synergy in results! In accordance to what happens in democratic republics and the reason why people win in elections is to implement the winners’ ideas because that what was ‘sold’ to the populace during the campaigns!

          • Joshua Ngaatu

            We dont need to split the country, the country is split on ethnic basis already but united under commanility of Kenya under our geography. Its true opposite pulling with have poor results, but isnt that the consequence of ethnic political competition?. For the winners they will need unity after election and losers greater divide after elections and more so if they have resources e.t.c Democracies depend on their foundations and basis and our sadly is based on ethnicity which cant be subdued after polls!! To have ethnic security in the long run devolution will continue to further deepen. Wealth redistribution here is through centralisation rather than decentralisation. Most counties have specific ethnic blocks lest for few major towns, so it depends on county development strategies for prosperity..if Kitui has coal and it retains 60% and takes 40% to national goverment and its their resources, that is local populace empowerment..40% shall be used to assist struggling counties(which i dont think we have as most have resources to be exploited now or in future)

          • Gabby

            Your post DOES NOT make sense.

          • Joshua Ngaatu

            I clearly think you need constitution understanding since you are not making clear point. Let me follow your points and correct them clearly;

            - Cord Manifesto will be pushed down people, meaning there is no form of accountability and vetting. That’s completely false and has no basis.

            1. There is county and national goverment. In county goverment you have governor and county assembly(who are representatives of people), if they need to implement something for instance sanitary towels which is in line with “CORD manifesto ” the Governor sends the bill to County Assembly for debate and allocation is done. Is that a decree surely or a katiba process driven? Jubilee Bills are national bills not county bills, if they get pushed down to the whole country through voting in bunge even cord areas will accept them as it would be state policy i.e laptop, VAT. However, cord areas can politic it and if they have resources can assist their county areas by providing initiatives to assist their people(if only they have resources and capacity)

            2. Waiguru is there to oversee efficient allocation of national funds to country resources(although its already protected in Katiba). If Jubilee Manifesto is Laptops, they will be distributed in whole of Country, either in CORD or JUBILEE stronghold. In addition however, mombasa county can start an initiative of increasing teachers or anything according to CORD manifesto e.t.c there wont be competition rather complimenting aspects. There are clear functions of National and County goverment, so i dont know how UNDEMOCRATIC it is? Unless Katiba was flawed.

            3. Yes its true RAO is doing that initiative to create ethnic competition through using Cord areas and this can be negative if Jubilee also engages in competition, but can unclip cord influence by attracting governors and other political leaders affiliated to cord on its fold, thats the only way. If RAO succeeds to galvanise cord ethnic zones it would be tough for all and a patched growth, and if Uhuru disrupts the cord zones and develops loyalty then he shall ride well. No permanent enemies only interests so it depends all on political arithmetic. I know your fear is increased ethnicisation of counties and create further competition thus threatening others..but isnt that the by-product of ethnicised politics?

          • Gabby

            Do you really understand governance? There is Vision 2030 and national MDGs that HAVE to be achieved countrywide just as an example!!! There are also sectoral goals and other national economic, health, social and more touching on EAC regional bloc-goals like transport and trade that need to be met. IF the county governments are oblivious to ALL THESE and ARE PULLING in opposing directions, surely need I shout from the roof top that NONE of these goals will be achieved nationally but then will be just a visible patchwork of attempted BUT incomplete everything as the funds will be spread too thin – principally to accommodate CORD’s manifesto in rivalry with the ONE Jubilee manifesto that was ‘sold’ and the populace gave a nod for the next 5 years and soon-to-come schadenfreude when this happens for one RAO to ‘point’ out such failure in full campaign mode pre-2017 even IN HIS OWN AREAS!!!

          • Joshua Ngaatu

            You have Admited RAO has HIS OWN AREAS..Implying ethnic strongholds. Good. Yes i am fully aware of Governance, Governance Exists in a unified monolithic society and the same as federal and decentralized states. What we need to clearly understand is that our society is pluralized on ethnic affiliations, as you know RAO has his own areas and Uhuru the same, in other terms tribal bases.Vision 2030 and MDGs can be achieved without a unitary perspective since we have socio-economic lines on ethnic grounds. First we formed counties to neutralise centralisation of resources and devolve power to counties as part of further empowering respective ethnic groups to feel they can control their destiny and avoid hegemony of large tribes.
            There are clear national goals and county goals which are not in competition but symbiotic and on which i beleive both manifestos largely copy pasted from VISION 2030 lest for few aspects. If its Health the state has its own responsibility and County has its own responsibility too. If the state fails to implement its manifesto it shall not be the responsibility of county so i dont see any diversion in ur “governance structure”.

            2. Its true having a unified vision is positive and accelarates growths fasters, but how is it possible in an ethnic divide driven politics? We votes on ethnic lines, instill ethnic competition as a winner takes it all, win or loose on ethnic numbers and gain legitimacy and importantly ethnic whipping propagated by political elites for sustaining of power or grip of their ethnic bases blindly. So surely, upon ethnic driven campaign, how do you expect the loosers ethnic blocks like CORD to accept. In theory yes but practical they will use their ethnic bases to have clout there. I think the blame is on ethnic led tribal paradigm rather than Jubilee/Cord. For CORD ethnic bases, the best approach to challenge the Jubilee in ethnic politics, is to balkanise their counties, propagate for their manifesto so to have quasi-autonomy and if it continues and they feel they will continue to loose by numbers they will polarise their regions further and demand further autonomy and devolution(which is the future trend to safeguard ethnic led politics). So we must accept our society as it is in ethnicity divide, then we can sort it and become a monolithic society despite tribal variances, which is not there

          • Gabby

            You wrote so much but said so little. Do summarize………. Easy to note you have a tribalist approach to things and so sad to engage. Thanks…

          • Kwessi Pratt

            Exactly! This guy has tribalism in his bones! And believes he is ever right. By the way, voting where our leaders are has nothing to do with tribalism. Its more like voting for who you know.

          • Joshua Ngaatu

            Stop being hypocritical to yourself my fellow “kenyan” and be realistic thats the only way to solve problem and in any society. If you did not see tribalism in Kenyans Bones in Electioneering(which is relative and shifts depending on tribal partnering) then surely you are hallucinating probably or providing simplistic ideas which do not exist. Accept how your society is, adjust it and shape it to have a better society, ignorance of fact not assisting

          • Gabby

            WE ALL KNOW TRIBALISM EXISTS AND WOULD BE HAPPY IF YOU DO NOT KEEP ON REMINDING US IT DOES AS WE GLADLY EMBRACE OTHERS WHO DO NOT BELONG TO OUR COMMUNITIES BECAUSE WE LOVE THEM! SO JUST LAY IT OFF BUDDY. THIS THING FROM YOU IS SICKENING NOW!

          • Kwessi Pratt

            Tribalism is NOT as pervasive as you want us to believe. We know its there but mostly ignited by politicians. However, if one thinks ours is a kingdom of tribalism and even goes on rooftops to scream about it, I wont certainly support that at all. Your posts might be inspired by deep-seated reasons you are seemingly concealing. Otherwise, tribalism is there but definitely not overwhelming! Actually, if politicians stopped employing it villagers wont even think of it. You need to be open to us and tell us where you met this tsunami of it!

          • Joshua Ngaatu

            Of course, you see somebody as tribalist when you define the tribalistic nature of our society. Its Easy cause you see from Jubilee i suppose, and i can understand you clearly your point although you are trying to live in denial. 1. You are making assumptions as if we voted without tribal blocks and our political and social structure is founded on other aspects superior to tribe/ethnic

            2. As noted earlier, on one side of Divide, mostly those who are declared victors, they tend to go quickly on fence mending of Unity of Purpose to collective forge ahead as a unit and 4get the past(ethnic compe) which was divisive as it suits both losers and victors. And you tend not to accept ethnicity despite it being the bedrock of decisions. I accept you rotate from this angle. On my angle you presume i am a tribalist bcoz am alluding that both sides are tribalist making decisions based on tribalism.

            Thats the reality, as Uhuru won fairly and squarely based on tribal arithmetics as by 18th Dec. And to tame Raila and ensure Jubilee manifesto is implemented smoothly shall ensure he interupts, or cut/pull/welcome some CORD ethnic bases and isolate RAO e.t.c which shall weaken RAO and strengthen the goverment to implements its manifestos well..thats why you see Ruto in Western forays e.t.c Those are cold facts

          • Gabby

            CORD is busy implementing their manifesto and (CORD) Governors are attending retreats on ‘how to’. That is what needs to be called out because it is the BIGGEST threat to National Unity in my view. County Commissioners can only try to ‘hold together’ as much. Calling out tribalism – the ever-changing face of Kenya’s personality politics. is very fluid because today’s adversaries WILL be tomorrow’s GREAT friends and even running mates……… That is the constant…..

          • Gabby

            Nothing to say? All blank. Delete the blank message……

          • Joshua Ngaatu

            Surely this “hypocrisy” seems to depend on a person affiliation of ethnic or political divide rather than being objective. Politicians across the divide, Jubilee and Cord used Ethnic hatred and balkanisation in run up to election based on winner takes it all(thanks to our statutes) then after election is over the Winner tell Losers to accept and move on. And losers vehemently denies to move on and say will do things his way. Now on your side, you wanted CORD governors to work with the Jubilee goverment so as to implement Jubilee Agenda? and in turn to turn to Jubilee so that we become “one”..lol. Of course We are binded by geographic boundaries but have different ethnic and tribal affiliations which runs deeper in thinking and reasoning. Is it evil for Cord governors to implement their election agenda to their people and they have their budgets and kitty for the county and can source from outside or wherever as long it does no threaten stability? Jubilee can implement their agenda national while CORD governors can give it to their consituents at regional level. County commisioners cannot prevent anything he is just an overseer, for instance if Mombasa says they want to implement CORD manifesto of infrastructure or water system is that evil? Not really. But due to ethnic polarisation it may become toxic since the “losers” will try to cement their agenda as the “winners” have a take at national resources

          • Joshua Ngaatu

            Unfortunately it will become hypocrisy then, by hiding a reality in covers because if you mention/propagate it you give it a new lease of life(something which exists already). Its on both sides of divide and not a problem of Jubilee but Jubilee/Cord et al together. They exist by that mantra. So not mentioning specific tribes would not a reality but ignorance.Moreover, it causes not alarm since thats what is on the ground. Goverment surely do cares as the opposition side too, but there feelings and attitudes are also driven by ethnic so as their supporters. Treating kenya as a monolithic block would be an understatement..we have our binding values(geography, and utu) but deep ethnic divide which is ailing us like any other society

          • Gabby

            Then please note your intentionally EXPANDED opposition and CONTRACTED government tribes’ lists are visible to all and what you try to achieve by that is clearly in display and a mark of your ingrained propaganda that you coldly propagate under guise of REALITY. You Joshua, are the gangrenous mildew that blights this society………

          • Joshua Ngaatu

            Gabby, my friend you are the panacea of tribal hypocrisy which sparks a conflict. Instead of resolving it, you clearly make assumption while indirectly practising it. It is a reality the goverment and opposition are led by a coalition of predominatly tribal groupings. Surely unless people are MAD or we talking to Kids under age of 4, who do not understand that Jubilee goverment is led by predominantly GEMA and Kalenjin(99%) with support minor from sparce minority tribes and Cord Opposition led by Luos,Kambas(Predominant) and Dominant Mijikenda, Luhyas e.t.c, surely is that a fallacy ot ingrained propaganda, or is ethnicity card valid only on election. Mildew my brother are political groups using ethnic card to sustain themselves and in the end causing dissent among other communities to seek retribution through legal and illegal approaches.

          • Gabby

            I would wish to use your method of list of tribes on either side of the divide to eventually solve the tribal problem but I am clear-eyed on this one. Let us go the tribal lists – Are you oblivious to the fact that there are 42 communities in this country. Okay then, why don’t we do it the reverse way namely: => [42 minus 'Luos, Luhyas, Kambas, Mijikenda, Sections of Kisiis, Maasais, Turkana, Taita, Pokomo' (your list)......] What does that leave you??? I am even quite sick trying it your way….

          • Joshua Ngaatu

            You cant be sick trying to analyse it. I have mentioned major tribal blocks, when i mention Kalenjin its a composition of a number of tribes(probably more than 10), When i mention GEMA (Is probably more than 4 or 5), Mijikendas(Are 9 sub-tribes). So dont be blinded by fiction just face reality sometimes its not friendly but its the ultimate way to solve our ills. In tribal groupings and votes from the recent election, predominantly Jubilee had GEMA, Kalenjin by almost 98%, Other tribes contributed too albeit with substantiality and Cord Luo, Luhyas, Kamba, Mijikenda voted to them with almost 90+%, e.t.c these are collection of tribal groupings. Thats how our society is and true the tribal groupings shift depending on specific interests at the specific time..but that does not overrule the fact of tribal composition of our political affiliations..and its true when you ask predominant Jubilee ethnic tribes on issues pertaining politics they will vary with predominant Cord led ethnic tribes

          • Gabby

            So I wish you well keeping on listing tribes. Tribalism will melt away from your concerted efforts attributing percentages. Kudos!

          • Kwessi Pratt

            You are living in denial and then mixing that with illogical tribalism, result: uncaring tribalist! Barrak Obama is the leader of free world. He also leads the most powerful nation on the earth. But you are narrowing his presidency to luoism. Forgeting that even those who connected his leadership to their kinship have gone quiet. Why? They expected him to pull them out of crippling poverty and activefully be on their side. He hasnt done any of that. Thus, that “famed” relationship just evaporated, the guy is president of United States of America! But you are no better than these guys. You think like and act like them. That way, tribalism is our national cancer and its alright to use it to insult others whom you have not even sought their opinion! The reason being that they never supported your tribal wagon. Your arguments border on tribal hatred and short-sightedness that fueled PEV. We must be having very short memories indeed! Kikuyus were chased all over the place and even killed because some people were seeing us exactly in your own words! Some guys involved in that slaughter are already our best friends. But that doesnt seem to have knocked sense in your tiny head at all! Even the fact that we are doing business all the country doesnt seem to bother you at all. Have asked yourself what would happen if that exclusist attitude of yours is applied across the board? Deputy president was not even trying to take your route. He was only trying to seek solace in false cover. He knows and we all know a visit that might turn the country around cant be ignored. He is apparently not “bothered” because that all important SEAL of approval bypassed him!

          • Joshua Ngaatu

            Unfortunately you are the one with close minded set up. I am using my real name , am not using social media aliases and i am not a Luo my friend(your presumed political enemies) i am Joshua Ngaatu by real name and not subscribising to Luoism as you subscribe to Kikuyuism unfortunately. I am not against Kikuyus and have not indicated anywhere but there are facts and i am a realist not living in denial. The PEV was not caused by my supposed tribalism, i will comment that frame elsewhere and anywhere because its a basic fact. I am sorry if you are prescribing the Jubilee or Cord for that instance. PEV and future ethnic violence is caused by tribal fanning caused by political competition pegged on ethnic power(winner takes it all) and assumption of specific tribes that they will be swallowed by superior tribes. In RV it was between Kalenjins and Kikuyu, and Kalenjins presumed Kikuyus were dominating them economically and were being priced away with their land. PEV in RV started since 1992 on tribal perception of socio-economi dominance. The same happens to Kikuyu community in Coast Province where i am coming from. The solution is sober socio-political framework not ethnic based politics. I am amused when you deny that “we” are not tribalist, yet our leaders on both side of divides campaigned vigorously on anti-kikuyuism (would dominate everything) or anti-luoism(will destroy your “kenya”). Fortunately using ethnic composition Jubilee won through negative campaign on other tribes(Luos et al) and WESTERNERS and Cord lost using negative anti-kikuyu et al. Yet today we claim as if there was not negative ethnicity, through hypocrisy to make either the opposition to move on or opposition to make goverment accept division. Its the height of sycophancy and hypocrisy to assume “kenya” is of this divide or other divide, while secretely hating Luos, Kambas, Mijikenda et al, or hating Gemas..thats hallmark of tribal naivety which always plunges the country into abyss like other african nations. Kikuyus or Luos as not the problems is the political systems and leaders with problem and they transfer the reality to the masses who in turn propagate it. Ethnicity is a factor just like racism and you cant say u have used racism to gain power then try to assume it after you win or loose. Obama of course is the US leader and we dont have anything rather than appreciating he is our kenyan brother. I am like anyone and they are also like me. But saying the DP did not have political connotations is grossly lying. The Jubilee camp campaigned using anti-western where Obama was presumed he was supporting a Luo et al a.k.a Rao and this was ingrained in the ethnic blocks(GEMA and Kalenjins)mostly because they were sacrificing their tribal chiefs at hague..surely then today you are saying its tribalism to say that its GEMA and Kalenjins who mostly hate WEST and Luos, Luhyas, et al dont have a problem..is that a hatred reality?

          • Gabby

            You wrote so much than just state that interests in Kenya – political or economic are perceived through tribal lines and it depends on where the respective ‘crowned’ community’s king pin is leaning otherwise alliances can be made today and broken tomorrow. So much for the minute reasons whey tribalism exists. Simplify your posts……

          • Kwessi Pratt

            Am wondering whether you understood what you wrote Mr. Ngaatu! And using your real name has no bearing whatsoever on what you say. Unless, of course, you are unsure of yourself, or worse, a coward! Are you not the same same Ngaatu who wrote may be Luos, Luhyas, Kambas, Mijikendas, sections of Kisiis, Maasais, Turkana, Taita, Pokomo among others do care, but surely Gema and Kalenjin do not give a hoot about it among sizeable section of others? Is it not clear you were only refering to communities that voted CORD? I personally cant judge people on basis of their democratic right. And moreso, through imaginations and unauthenticated assumptions that cant stand any shred of scrutiny! By isolating Kikuyus and kalenjins, were you telling us that by just voting for Uhuru, they wholly dont care about the country? Tribalism in you is surely immeasurable despite your assertions to the contrary pal! There is no way you could create you own analysis from voting patterns and then you use that to declare us all tribalists. Thats self-serving deception! People dont collectively think or reason like you my friend. Am a Kikuyu but I neither voted for president Uhuru nor any other Kikuyu candidate. Thats simply because with ICC matter, I believed Uhuru was going to be a huge burden for us all. That belief has been reinforced by numerous factors since Uhuru became president. Needless to say, our star status in the world is rapidly waning. You therefore failed to get my point completely. I never said luos or any one else for that matter, were my enemies. I only questioned your now clearly emerging designed isolationist tricks. My take was that you picked only those who supported CORD as pro-Obama. May I kindly tell you there are alot of Kikuyus and Kalejins who sincerely realize that we belong to community of nations that revolve around United States of America. Chinese, the new excuse for illogical decisions by our leadership, never hesitate to show their joy whenever their decisions are approved by USA! Same with Russians, who actually reduced themselves to close to third world country after getting several praises and urgings by US! Your sentiments purported Kenyans dont understand the weight and meaning of a visit by leader of the free world. By the way, had Obama come to Kenya, the ICC cases would have been withdrawn under the weight of moral authority given to accused by his very presence! Your arguments misses all that important point by miles. Ruto was decidely complaining together with all those in government for missing all that too essential SEAL of approval. Apparently, you mistook that with crippling tribalism. Of course, Kenyans vote where their leaders are. But that alone doesnt mean they dont know the right thing. Its also not reason enough to scream on rooftops kingdom of tribalism! Coiling and recoiling around tribalism is pretty too personal not a community thing Mr. Ngaatu. So this tribal drum-beating of yours is no here or there!

      • Kwessi Pratt

        You are mentioning too many tribes against two! Have you imagined what you are saying? In your innerself you believe you are saying the right thing? Genocide in Rwanda was not only brought by your kind of attitude, but also ignorant insensitivity. Please weigh what you say. By the way, anti-Kikuyu sentiments are currently very high, dont exerbate them through gulllibility!

      • Gabby

        I take note of the ‘two’ – Gema and Kalenjin that you want to remain in the packet as ONLY TWO against so so many on the other side. Are they really two? In light of your statement below – ‘If you accept reality you won’t leave in a hypocritic society ‘, maybe you need revise your list to start LIVING in reality otherwise you are HYPOCRITICAL to use your own words……..

    • marloow

      looks like the deputy prime minister cares….
      why else would he address the “snub” unless he is affected by it?