Yes. All those reasons and the heat your haso is feeling as a result of it. Anyway for now we can’t help. He has consumed the goodwill he had from kenyans across the board. Otherwise good reasons mama.

She is talking a lot of sense. Truly no one should rejoice for this but the problem is with our politicians, they make everything look tribal. When the president and prime minister wanted a local mechanism, most of them shouted Hague including those who think Raila is the one who took them there. The names were handed by Waki commission. Let every kenyan be sober and understands this. No need for hatred and no need to hate Raila. He has done more good than harm to this Country.

Too late. It is hard to believe that you are sincere and are not just belatedly regretting the cruel celebrations over the Ocampo 4′s predicament.

Well spoken Mama Ida.You capture the thoughts and feelings of many Kenyans and you have been there.

It’s too late Mama IDA! And may I remind you that “Hague” Trails are are their on choice! Remember how KIBAKI, RAILA and KILONZO tried to persuade the MPs (RUTO and UHURU) included to set up a local tribunal! It was RUTO and UHURU who traded MPs to vote for the Hague trials. Later on, they started crying and shouting everywhere how RAILA has fixed them to the Hague prosecution!!! This two fomer KANU boys RUTO and UHURU are too kidish and are harvesting where they planted. Pole mama here it’s not a case of your maternal sympathty or parternal donation by either KIBAKI or RAILA, it’s a case of ”MTOTO AKILILIA WEMBE? MPE! They now have the WEMBE and the bitter CHARLES! Ni matakwa yao!

She is talking bullshit and lts of it. The ordinary Kenyan is suffering from the crimes of Uhuru Kenyattas fathers of land grapping and displacing most Kikuyus. Thank Alla at last, what goes round comes round and remember the cries of those innocent mothers and babies burnt in church!!! Please let them them be locked in and possibly be hunged.

Political class – they think their anguish is all that matters. There are mothers and wives who went through hell and are still going through hell after losing their loved ones in 2007/2008. At least, if Uhuru or Ruto are jailed, their children will never miss what to eat and their educations are assured upto the highest level. Today in Kenya, we have children who do not have enough to eat and will never complete their education because their dad, the sole bread-winner was butchered in these senseless killings. The local mechanism she is talking about now existed in 2007 when her husband lost the elections. He would have sought arbitration through these mechanisms instead of calling out people to protest. Or does Ida fear her husband might also be implicated when the trials begin?

For you Oludavan, never think Mama Ida is talking to show heart to the 4 guys. It is all about Raila loosing the presidency which was in sight before this ICC thing or she is already privy of information that her own husband who was the General in 2008 is the PRIME target or rather the MBUTA of ICC.

She obviously does not understand, nor feel, for those who died in the violence, some for her husband’s ambitions, because she did not lose any. Her only lose was being the first lady. She should keep her mouth shut and let justice take its course.

The country, more especially the victims of the 2008 mayhem do not want this kind of confusion. Mama Ida has forgoten that there are families in this country that have not come to terms with what happened to their children, mothers, fathers or close relatives. I think this empathy is quite misplaced given what happened in 2007/2008. Do I get it that the PM’s wife is now so confident about our judicial system that all cases that had gone to the ICC should be brought back home? Is she really championing the course of the victims some of whom have not recovered? Let justice take its own cause at the Hague the way they wanted it. At the Hague trials, Kenyans will have the opportunity to hear the roles these individuals played; and remember, the Hague will even invite more depending on how adversely they are linked to the chaos. It could turn out that the court may find them innocent. Therefore, this confusion should not arise since the individuals are merely going for trial not DETENTION that Raila Odinga went through!

—-dont need her bloody crocodile tears—her despot husband,raila will never rule Kenya—-the trick is if he wins i do a Tom Mboya on him——then his useless uncircumsiced scum-bags in kibera can go n uproot the railway line,but they cant bring him back 2 life—PERIOD!!!!!

She is not being honest

So is she implying the families of the accused will be less depressed if tried in Kenyan courts, or is she simply implying that there is a greater chance that the accused will walk with a slap on the wrist if tried locally? talk of putting own’s foot in the mouth. We WANT JUSTICE FOR THE VICTIMS, and nothing else.

Sure, in fact for me I don’t regret for these guys! It’s all what they wanted and called RAILA names, while slaping KIBAKI on the face for advocating for Kenyan tribunal. I regret for Muthaura and Sang but not for Uhuru and Ruto. I just wan’t them hunged!!!

of course she doesn’t mean that. she just wants votes for her husband. She knows well it is too late to block the trial of our 4 criminals. By pretending to share their pain, she hopes for a few votes from Central and Rift Valley. With that RAO just lost my vote. I will only vote for someone interested in crashing impunity.

cruel celebrations? Dude, am still celebrating Ocampo’s nail to the coffin of impunity. Nataka Uhuru and Ruto wafungwe milele. I don’t care so much for old man Muthaura or the dwarf

I totally agree. Look at what she asid: “These are people we have lived with and are like my brothers. These are people known to me personally,” If one has not lived in Muthaiga, Karen, Lavington close to where Ida lives, he does not matter. If one does not know Ida personally, PM’s wife  does not have a tear for him. Absolutely pathetic

translated; raila called his wife and together with his team decided that ida would go public and seem to be sympathising with the ocampo 4 after sensing that ODM and Odinga are percieved on the ground to have celebrated the fate of the icc suspects.Many kenyans feel the ruling was political.its too late madam Ida damage to your husband’s presidential ambtions have been done.

WHEN WILL KENYANS EVER REASON TOGETHER?
WHY THE UNNECESSARY INSULTS AND UNCALLED FOR RANTS.
MAMA IDA ODINGA IS A KENYAN AND HAS EVERY RIGHT GAURANTIED I THE CONSTITUTION TO VOICE HER HEARTFELT FEELINGS.
SHE AND HER FAMILY SUFFERED TOO MUCH DURING MOI’s 24-YEAR DICTATORIAL REGIME.
SHE HAS UNDERGONE THE PAIN OF NOT BEING WITH HER HUSBAND DURING THE TRYING TIMES.
SHE SHARES THE SAME FEELINGS HER FRIENDS (WIVES, CHILDREN, MOTHERS AND RELATIVES OF THE NOW FAMOUS O’4 SUSPECTS) ARE LIKELY TO UNDERGO IN CASE THEY ARE CONVICTED.
WHAT IS WRONG WHEN SHE EXPRESSES HER FEELINGS.
I DONT THINK ANY TRUELY PATRIOTIC KENYAN IS REJOICING THAT 2007 ELECTIONS WERE GROSSLY MISMANAGED AND RIGGED TO MAINTAIN STATUS QUO.
I DONT THINK ANY KENYAN IS REJOICING THAT THINGS GOT OUT HAND LEADING PAINFUL LOSS OF LIVES AND UNCALLED FOR DISPLACEMENTS.
I DONT THINK ANY KENYAN IS CELEBRATING THAT WE LOST OUR SENSES AND FAILED TO AGREE TO RESOLVE OUR ISSUES INTERNALLY AT THE RIGHT TIME. WE TOOK LEAVE OF OUR SENSES AND FAILED TO REASON WHEN KIBAKI, RAILA AND ALL CONCERNED LEADERS PLEADED WITH MPS TO ALLOW LOCAL TRIBUNAL TO HANDLE THE PEV CASES. IT WAS A MISTAKE WITH LESS INTELLIGENT CALLS OF ‘DONT BE VAGUE GO TO HAGUE’. A HOLLYWOOD MOVIE IT WAS!
NOW WE ARE IN THERE AND WE SIMPLY HAVE TO REASON AND BEHAVE AS TRUELY PATRIOTIC PEACE LOVING KENYANS.
LET’S BE SERIOUS WITH TAKING KENYA FORWARD. GOING FORWARD WE CAN. BUT JUSTICE HAS TO PREVAIL FOR EVERYONE REGARDLESS OF SOCIAL STATUS AND WEALTH. BOTH THE PEV VICTIMS AND THE SUSPECTS DESERVE JUSTICE. TRUE JUSTICE! 
AS LONG AS WE HAVE SYSTEMS RIGHT, WORKING AND SERVING EVERY KENYAN FAIRLY, KENYA WILL STILL REMAIN A UNITED PROSPEROUS NATION REGARDLESS OF WHO OCCUPIES THE PRESIDENCY. IT DOES NOT MATTER! LET US REASON TOGETHER AND MOVE ON TOGETHER.

Japolo, Ida Odinga does not make sense. She suffered alot when her husband was detained in Kenya, if Uhuru and Ruto are found guilty and jailed in Kenya, does that make Mama Ngina’s and Rachel Ruto’s pain bearable or is she saying these people should not be jailed at all even if found guilty, because she does not want their wives to miss them the way she missed her husband. There are women in IDP camps who will forever miss their husbands because their lives were snuffed out for crimes they did not commit. What message does Ida have for them or do they really matter?

Mama Ida God bless 

Great thanks for seeing the other side! Either way ODM should build a retirement home he will not get the Presidency!

WHO SAID THEY ARE GUILTY ALL YOU DIMWITTED CONTRIBUTORS HERE SHOULD KNOW THEY HAVE NOT BEEN PROVED GUILTY DON’T DISPLAY YOUR SMELLY IGNORANCE HERE! WAIT FOR THE ICC VERDICT AND KEEP YOUR MYOPIC VIEWS INSIDE YOUR HEADS!

This is just another tactic by Raila/ODM in search for sympathy and votes.  Or could it be they have sensed the Ocampo 4 will win the appeal at ICC and to ensure the cases go on and in jurisdiction of the PM’s control like the managed to have his sisters case withdrawn that is why they want the ICC case now brought to Kenya?  What about the thousands of victims of the violence who are still grieving their loved ones and others who lost all they owned? THIS PHYCOLOGICAL ABUSE OF KENYANS SHOULD END. She appears to be preparing for statehouse but God forbid she ever steps in there.  Who said everyone jailed by Moi was innocent of what they were accused of?  Did Raila not accept that he was involved in the 1982 coup attempt? 

we are not gullible her views are meant to fetch votes in the rift and mt.kenya region that wont and will never happen how about that because its the truth they simply hate the man to death!

aki ya Mungu come for  a Tusker great views akwende huko!!!

What Ida fails to understand is that Raila was locked by Moi regime fighting for all Kenyans to one day be able to access justice, basically he got tortured in the nyayo torture chambers fighting unjust system set up by one of Africa long rulling dictator [MOI]
Raila never had an opportunity to access legal assistance instead he run away and became refugee. The Ocambo 4 and many other Ocambo fishes hanging on stole the people of Kenya’s right of electing their preferred leader, and instead swore by any means to take power by force and backdoor.
Everyone remember’s how hurriedly Kibaki was sworn into power behind the statehouse patio!!! while people were being killed. This woman doesn’t know that my own mother was burnt alive in the church in Eldoret and no one has ever charged, and she is telling me that them murderers and bloody rapists should be brought back to Kenya!!!!
How can they be brought to Kenya, when Robert Ouko was killed no one charged, JJ Kariuki – no one guilty, Tom Mboya – no one guilty, Alexander Muge – no one has ever been charged, 1994 election – violence lots of people died – no one charged, 1998- election violence in Molo, kipkelion etc – no one charge, 2002 violence – no one charged. How can i personally have some faith in the Kenyan Judiciary?
Mama Ida, as much as i respect and adore Raila and get me right i am not a jaluo man but a liberal, your comments rae rather distasteful and please you shut the fuck up and go cook some food for Raila please.

Why did she not say this before the confirmation of charges?  We know in your house its all popping champaign bottles and then giving us fake tears.  We will not take the bait.  Tell your Mzee we meet at the ballot box.

soory Ida,your husband is cooked already,no more statehouse.They misjudged the ICC issue.

 Mama Ida,   with all due respect,  if you are sincere,   why did you wait until these gentlemen have stepped aside?  you could say what you are saying now long time since 23rd Jan,  I believe strongly you are NOT sincere. Every one is feeling the pain,  not only their relatives,,,,,,most kenyans.    becouse this seems like not an ICC issue but i think you see it the same as i do.  Jomo Kenyatta too suffered and Mama Ngina too. Uhuru has a wife are you forgetting?     I believe in MIRACLES.   and maybe one day,   Uhuru or Ruto will be president of Kenya.

It is too late mama.Your husband has already made these families suffer.

Are they going to be Presidents of Kenya because they planned to slaughter so many innocent Kenyan who had nothing to do with leadership Rita? What is going on in Kenya today, if you are old enough is because of Ururu’s father. He preached what he did not practice, he could say in his speeches wacha ukabila but when you look closely who were close to him were people from his own community. A president of the whole country telling his own people not to allow leadership to go beyond river chania. This thing did not start yesterday it has been building in Kenya that is why Kibaki planned to steal the election which every Kenyan know he lost, how can somebody become a President in Kenya by winning in only one province. How can one rule a country with 46 MPs against 98
MPs this not logical. Uhuru’s father ruled Kenya with iron fist, he used to tell his opponents: kama unafanya nyoko nyoko nita siaga wewe kama unga. Some of then died mysterious deaths the man did not know anything to do with democracy his son does not talk about democracy so much if you listen to speeches. Let us pray for our country. Until the old guards are gone we are in trouble.

 Mafioso, you seem like a mentally deranged individual ! Raila has never been a President. Consequently your reference to him as  a  despot doesn’t make sense ! Moreover, your inconsiderate reference to the late Tom Mboya in such an abject and derogatory manner betrays you not only as a rabid  tribalist but also as an  uneducated,  villager! Will you get this in your knucklehead : unlike your “heroes” who unleashed mayhem on their fellow Kenyans ( and have consistently  robbed  the treasury -  aka  Computer errors,  public lands and Five Star Hotels),  Mboya’s positive contribution to Kenya is well documented in History books. By the way, how do you know that Kibera’s residents aren’t circumcised? Are you sure? Finally, desist from referring to them as   “scum-bugs.” They reason with their brains and NOT with their “Dicks” like you !!  We want PEACE in Kenya.

Ida has expressed her views as an adult Kenya. She is a teacher by profession and a mother. She decided to put the shoes in her on feet and felt what did feel when her hubby was incarcerated. She  was being human. 

From comments seen here, she is damned for supporting formation local judiciary system to try these people at home. She is damned if she supported it and damned for opposing it. She losses all the same.

So it means that people commenting here actually support the Hague root but hate RAO. Just like Githae said on this clip at .046 seconds. Don’t be vague go to Hague. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZK-GeQOuL1I&feature=player_embedded

So i gather you all want UK and WSR to go to Hague. Otherwise why all these vitriol against Mrs Odinga. In any case Kifake and PM tried to convience Parliament to enact a law to install local tribunal but Isaac Ruto said Don’t be vague let’s go to Hague. WSR too supporter the Hague and so are you hypocrites.

Last general election Fidel Odinga got married to a kikuyu from Murang’a. now they are divorced. Raila can I fetch Fidel another from nyeri. But thanks wanjiru wewe hutaki hiyo kitu iko TURTLE HEAD!!

Wafungwe because they were found guilty when? When was the trial? Can you inform us because i missed that event?

If you believe Ocampo’s evidence is solid, then you also believe Kibaki and Uhuru met Mungiki leaders disguised as Kibaki Tena youth group led by a Luo called Evans Gor in Statehouse on 26th November, 2007 to plan for RETALIATORY violence that was to occur IN THE FUTURE in Nakuru and Naivasha between 24 – 28th January 2008. In essence, Mungiki must have resurrected the legendary Kikuyu seer Mugo wa Kibiru who predicted the coming of the white man and the ‘iron snake’, to accompany them to State House to predict FUTURE RETALIATORY violence even BEFORE the elections had been held.That is just one of the many incredible contradictions the ICC judges blithely brushed aside.

If there ever was a time common sense and logic was in short supply, this is a prime example of the lack of it, and you must be one of the principle disciples of this kind of imbecilic zealotry. You are the type of unquestioning fan who gives Ocampo very intense orgasms given your religious faith in his absurd claims.

I doubt he ever had your vote in the first place.

This is deceit at its worst! Having found that the joy from ICC ruling that pervades the luo nation is detrimental to her husband’s aspirations, Ida Odinga is now pretending to be the best mother with “genuine” feeling for our true leaders. This is absurd! Where was she when Raila was urging his supporters to kill Kenyans? Where was she when Raila was sabotaging Kalonzo’s shuttle diplomacy? Where was she when Raila went around cooking up the Mugiki stories? Where was she when her husband was rewarding those who burned people at Kiambaa church? Where was she when Raila wrote to UN and ICC distancing himself from the government’s attempt to have the cases done in the country? Deception and discreet selfish designs have to stop madam! We know the country is awash with Raila’s propaganda and rapant lies. Why are you not doing anything about that? Obviously, its not necessary because of the self-serving nature of the lies. Kindly stop the self serving crocodile tears, we have had enough!!!! 

MUM   YOU   HAVE   TALKED  NICE, BUT  THIS  GUYS  HAVE  TO  FACE  THE  FULL   WRATH  OF  THE   LAW.

Now that they(Ocampo 4) have been confirmed for the full trial, you are suddenly sympathethic. Lady, shut up. Go back to the kitchen and make me a sandwich. This is a battle between men.May the best man win. Topic closed.

if you.ve got nothing to say keep quite .

wafungwe hague wahalifu…am still an IDP and i dont like this!!!!!!!!!!!

wafungwe….they burnt people in churches….they funded n organized. do u know the pain we as IDPs r going through?

“These are people we have lived with and are like my brothers. These are people known to me personally,” said Ida.
                Well this says it all. They eat,dine and wine together..the rich or VIPs of Kenya when the poor people fight and kill      each other for them. That is the cycle all along, but now the wheel of justice are rolling for the poor. IDPs are not like your brothers, let them settle them and move on. Should have kept quiet Ida.

scanfish, please return to reality, @MwangiKibe is celebrating the wheels of justice are rolling, am celebrating too. They asked for the Hague, they got it.

Ida should not compare Raila and the ICC 4.Odinga was detained and tortured due to democratic struggle. The ICC 4 can only be tried (in the hague) where the life of the post election victims are valued. Here in Kenya the ICC 4 suspect are viewed as heroes even by their own victims in the camps.